Reducing Front Weight Bias

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  • here2learn
    S2Forum Addict
    • Feb 2012
    • 325
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    still failing to earn any credibility

    i shall keep trying

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    • andy10v
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      • Mar 2009
      • 5996
      • Country: Scotland

      #17
      Originally posted by Error404
      They are designed to increase caster angle (and are bodge job of doing that IMHO). )
      What are the negatives of shifting the subframe forward that much? Wheel not centred in the arch?
      Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

      Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
      Sold ABY-stock

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      • URquattroGus
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Aug 2007
        • 547
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        I am going to be honest and say that nearly all of the stuff discussed scares me!

        If i was building a dedicated track car then yes, time to go to town. Having said that I would probably choose another car as a base in the first place.

        As it is I want to keep the fast road car ethos, with the odd trackday. A lot of these changes involve compromises, and despite the fact this is not a daily driver, i like to have the ususability.

        Very interesting discussion nonetheless!

        So, a carbon bonnet might save 10KG? Does anyone make these/can they be made?

        I saw a sport quattro one on the 2 Bennet website for 3000 usd. Seems a little pricey perhaps?

        Radiator wise, is allumium actually any less dense than brass?
        Angus

        (1984 ur quattro)

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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Originally posted by andy10v
          What are the negatives of shifting the subframe forward that much? Wheel not centred in the arch?
          IMHO of course, I just don't like it as a mod, they are designed so that you have to cut the subframe strengthening rings to fit them (to stop rotation) and you will get contact with the arch liner on full lock, despite the fact it just looks wrong.
          Can't image it does the CVs any favours running at constant misalignment either
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            In conjunction with offset top mounts, you'll reduce the wheel offset.

            What about offset engine and tranny mounts? Could see 10-15mm offset of engine and box
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • DJones
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jun 2005
              • 2020
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              Angus

              Off topic.... But did you sort you loss of compression issue?

              Darren.
              Last edited by DJones; 7 November 2012, 23:34.

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              • rs2coupe
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Oct 2004
                • 1782
                • Home: Trinidad and Tobago Current: United States

                #22
                I would add the following to that list.

                1) Manual cloth seats at front
                2) Magnesium or light alloy rims
                3) Monoblock Calipers and Ceramic Discs
                4) Lightest tyres on the market in conjunction with Helium
                5) Fibre Glass hood/fenders/bumper
                6) Minus aircon
                7) Titanium half shafts

                There is much you can do to lighten up the Car. How far ya gonna go with it is the ponder
                Cheers mis amigos,
                _Anton

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                • URquattroGus
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 547
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by DJones
                  Angus

                  Off topic.... But did you sort you lose of compression issue?

                  Darren.
                  Yes, slightly embarrased but relieved to say it was only a spark plug!

                  When I broke down it sounded like it was not running on all 5, so is suspected a coil pack or wiring fault of some kind. Had a cursary look.

                  Couldn't figure it out and so decided to use my RAC member ship for the first time since getting it for my Le Mans trip about two years ago.

                  He comp tested all 5, with 4 being at 175 and he claimed the last one had no compression at all! So I took his word for it and did not want to run the engine in case of causing further damage, presumed the worst and sent it to Pete Berry who built the engine and it was a f"cking plug. I think I may need to run slightly colder plugs.

                  I have filed a complaint to see if i can get anything out of the RAC.
                  Angus

                  (1984 ur quattro)

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                  • DJones
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                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2020
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Originally posted by URquattroGus
                    Yes, slightly embarrased but relieved to say it was only a spark plug!

                    When I broke down it sounded like it was not running on all 5, so is suspected a coil pack or wiring fault of some kind. Had a cursary look.

                    Couldn't figure it out and so decided to use my RAC member ship for the first time since getting it for my Le Mans trip about two years ago.

                    He comp tested all 5, with 4 being at 175 and he claimed the last one had no compression at all! So I took his word for it and did not want to run the engine in case of causing further damage, presumed the worst and sent it to Pete Berry who built the engine and it was a f"cking plug. I think I may need to run slightly colder plugs.

                    I have filed a complaint to see if i can get anything out of the RAC.

                    Incredible.... But a cheap fix....

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                    • URquattroGus
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 547
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Originally posted by DJones
                      Incredible.... But a cheap fix....
                      Yes, I had a mate wth me and he helpfully posted this photo on Facebook:



                      We had just popped along to a local classic car show, and i might have just slightly taken the piss out of the Metro

                      Also had to watch as scores of 70 or so year old cars sailed past, whilst i was sat there in a layby with the bonnet up
                      Angus

                      (1984 ur quattro)

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                      • Colesy
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2980
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        Surprised no one else has suggested this, but I was thinking...


                        Wouldn't adding something heavy to the rear have the same effect?




















                        Like this:



                        or maybe not so heavy:


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                        • nervas
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                          • Jun 2004
                          • 357
                          • Country: Lithuania

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Error404
                          Can't image it does the CVs any favours running at constant misalignment either
                          What's the problem with CV's runing at constant let's say 15 degree angle? GKN states that their AC and UF joints handle approx. 50 degrees, so we have up to ~30 degrees for tuning and wheel travel. If it's not daily drive car you don't need to worry that you won't be able to drive like 250kkm with such setup
                          Xtra Racing

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                          • Error404
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 19789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Good info thanks
                            What about OEM joints?
                            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                            Indigo ABY coupé
                            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                            • nervas
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 357
                              • Country: Lithuania

                              #29
                              I'm waiting info from GKN Motorsport department..

                              by the way look at GKN OEM CV:
                              Xtra Racing

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                              • Error404
                                Super Moderator
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 19789
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                                Indigo ABY coupé
                                Imola B6 S4 Avant

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