HELP Gear change 1st to 2nd above 5.8RPM

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  • terrybullwon
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2006
    • 8782
    • Country: England

    #1

    HELP Gear change 1st to 2nd above 5.8RPM

    Think my clutch is on its way When i have an agressive start or pull hard above 6.rpm, and change from 1st to 2nd above 5.8-6k it will grind. Unless i really really really get the clutch down hard and really perfect! also gearing down underload will cause this, 3rd to 2nd at high RPM

    Is this the clutch dying?
    Chef
  • dirk
    S2Forum Hobbyist
    • Mar 2005
    • 10
    • Country: Belgium

    #2
    I have the same problem. It's the synchronisation rings of my second gear that are worn or something like that, so I've been told. I've seen here already a few posts about this problem.

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    • terrybullwon
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2006
      • 8782
      • Country: England

      #3
      So do we just live with it?
      Chef

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      • Corey
        Banned
        • Sep 2003
        • 2793
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Originally posted by terrybullwon
        So do we just live with it?
        Or rebuild it!!! problems only get worse
        Corey
        01636 822288

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        • Keeper of The Kitten
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Dec 2003
          • 2317
          • Country: England

          #5
          Yep BTDT - you can only live with it until it starts to jump out of gear...

          BTW Thanks for the email Corey, I'll reply when I get home!

          __MDC__
          Martin Cutting

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          It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.

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          • ian_jemo
            S2Forum Addict
            • Aug 2004
            • 284
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            I had exactly the same problem in my car it would crutch ever time I dropped it down it 2nd or when changing from 1st to 2nd above 4000 rpm.

            I changed the gearbox oil and it has been fine ever since no crutch at all even, might be worth a try as I know it is a pain.
            1991 S2 3b, Samco Hoses, RS2 IC, 18'' RS6 Wheels, Forge Dump Valve, Scorpion Exhaust System, Decatted, MRC Remap

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            • terrybullwon
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2006
              • 8782
              • Country: England

              #7
              ian_jemo I had exactly the same problem in my car it would crutch ever time I dropped it down it 2nd or when changing from 1st to 2nd above 4000 rpm.

              I changed the gearbox oil and it has been fine ever since no crutch at all even, might be worth a try as I know it is a pain.
              Ok will give it ago, i take it the plug is on the bottom? and where do i fill it from, also is there any specail type of oil that would be good?
              Chef

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              • Fat Audi 80
                Super Moderator
                • Jan 2004
                • 10547
                • Country: England

                #8
                Be careful asking Ian for advice on oil changes.... :mischeif:
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                • terrybullwon
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 8782
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Fat Audi 80 Be careful asking Ian for advice on oil changes....
                  just recall that, 4.5lt into ... ...... on a full one
                  Chef

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                  • ian_jemo
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 284
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Haha very funny, I thought everyone might off forgot about that one. I'm just pretending that it never happen.

                    The plug is at the bottom of the gearbox. You need either a large allen key or an actually gearbox removal socket to release the plug.

                    To refill the gearbox you need to undo the plug on the side of the gearbox abit higher up, The plug looks the same as the one under the gearbox, you still need to do this from under the car.

                    I used some cheap halfords gearbox oil when I changed mine can't remember the exact one, it was 80W / something.

                    What I did accidentally (NOT RECOMMENDED) was drive round with no gearbox oil in and this solved my crutch from 1st to 2nd. Its a long story I'm trying to forgot, think I've just about recovered

                    When the gearbox oil is out it might be worth trying it into all the gears a few times to try and knocked of all the rubbish.
                    1991 S2 3b, Samco Hoses, RS2 IC, 18'' RS6 Wheels, Forge Dump Valve, Scorpion Exhaust System, Decatted, MRC Remap

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                    • sailaz
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 647
                      • Country: United Nations

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dirk
                      I have the same problem. It's the synchronisation rings of my second gear that are worn or something like that, so I've been told. I've seen here already a few posts about this problem.
                      would be nice to know in this case it can be only synchronizer ring (No.12) or something more, maybe synchronizing hub (No.13) as well

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                      • LHD_Kid
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • May 2006
                        • 3697
                        • Home: England Current: Belgium

                        #12
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                        • DJones
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 2020
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          It will be just 12 so long as you have not been crunching it for to long. The teeth on the shifter collars are pointed to aid with meshing, crunching will knock the points off and bang goes your smooth shifting..

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                          • simon20vq
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1379
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            I have used a 17mm or is it 19mm wheel bolt with a nut weilded to the end, make sure you can get the one on the side undun first before you drain it!!

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                            • sailaz
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 647
                              • Country: United Nations

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DJones
                              It will be just 12 so long as you have not been crunching it for to long. The teeth on the shifter collars are pointed to aid with meshing, crunching will knock the points off and bang goes your smooth shifting..
                              the problem was in sychronizing hub No.13

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