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  • sjw185
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jun 2007
    • 1175
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    Track car flywheel choice

    Looking at fitting 0A3 gearbox on track car soon and was thinking about flywheels.
    Car currently has 034 Aluminum flywheel which is around 4.5kg.
    I suspect it maybe the culprit to a stalling issue I have and was thinking to fit a 7A this time round as I have one on the shelf.
    If I was to go 7A is it worthwhile getting skimmed and lightened as I believe its heavier that 3b flywheel?
    Any BTDT

    Thanks
    Steve
  • k.alle
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Feb 2008
    • 801
    • Country: Sweden

    #2
    Trim the casted bits sticking out on the back of the 7A flywheel, same side as timing pin.
    Especially if you are using a standalone ECU to avoid trigger faults.
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    • sjw185
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jun 2007
      • 1175
      • Country: Scotland

      #3
      Nice that should trim a bit of weight off as well, sounds like a good plan.

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      • sal_s2
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2003
        • 1291
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        I have an o34 billet flywheel in my ur and it also occasionally stalls when slowing down/ braking to standstill. I have a 7a that I've sent to AndyP to get the timing pin welded on and some extra weight machined off
        I was wondering whether the centre could be machined out so that it become like an rr flywheel, has anyone tried this as the needle bearing is in the crank on an ur

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        • sjw185
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jun 2007
          • 1175
          • Country: Scotland

          #5
          Originally posted by sal_s2
          I have an o34 billet flywheel in my ur and it also occasionally stalls when slowing down/ braking to standstill.
          Stalling issue is a pain, went through changing ISV, throttle settings and checking vacuum booster trying to find an issue?
          Then remembered I was using 7A flywheel before and suspected the flywheel.

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          • Error404
            Super Moderator
            • Mar 2007
            • 19789
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            I’ve machined a few 7A flywheels down, you can take a good chunk off the back which takes them down to the same as a 3B flywheel, which is a nice weight. You can also profile the perimeter around the clutch cover bolts to take a bit more off, but I wouldn’t want to take much more meat out of it really, it’s only cast iron at the end of the day. Also some thermal mass helps on a road driven car where the clutch is slipped
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            • AndyP
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Feb 2004
              • 6049
              • Country: England

              #7
              What does a 3B flywheel weigh?
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              • Error404
                Super Moderator
                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                I have around 9kg in my head but it’s been ages since I weighed one
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                • sal_s2
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 1291
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Alex, what do you reckon, can the middle be machined out to become an rr one in your expert opinion?

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                  • Rusty
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 18953
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Billet steel one? There have been a few over the years. 7-8kg and stronger than cast iron.
                    Cheers'en, AndyC
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                    • Error404
                      Super Moderator
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 19789
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sal_s2
                      Alex, what do you reckon, can the middle be machined out to become an rr one in your expert opinion?



                      There is a big ring of material on the back (engine) side which you can machine off, but I don’t this it’s wise to reduce the thickness to less than that of an 3B / RR. Machine from
                      CrMo then the world is your oyster
                      As Andy says, 7-8Kg is the sweet spot for a fast road car with a road clutch you need to slip and nice manners
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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Think mine's around 8.5kg machined from a 7A. Idle is a smidge lumpy and traffic isn't ideal but then the same could apply to the solid bushings, poly engine mounts and bucket seats...

                        If it's a pure track car, you could go alloy and get it all zero balanced.
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Yours is most likely lumpy cos JNL “balanced” your bottom end
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                          • Costash
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                            • Mar 2009
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                            #14
                            Alex is not helpful isn't it .Lol
                            I feel sorry for everyone spending loads of money on engines and be done for it .

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