6 speed gearbox advise please

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  • HPmuirt
    S2Forum April Fool
    • Apr 2005
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    #1

    6 speed gearbox advise please

    Greetings,

    I know that there have been many posts on gearbox modding/upgrading, but I wanted the most up to date opinions on this as my box has started to make very nasty noises in 1st gear

    All other gears are still nice and quiet and the box still feels tight, so I assume that this is a failure of just the 1st gear, which I understand is the main difference between the S2 ABY and the RS2 gearboxes.

    So, I assume I have 3 options, but which is best, which is cheapest and who do I go to for each option?

    1. Pull the box and have it rebuilt with an RS2 1st gear

    2. Change the box for an RS2 gearbox (I tried to buy Pisobikers but it has not happened yet)

    3. Change to an S4 gearbox. I assume this is from the 340BHP V6 TT model, not the URS4.

    I have all the RS2 components (Turbo, EM etc) ready to bolt on so at some point the car will hopefully be running around 365BHP, once it has paid a visit to MRC, so I will need a box that can take spirited driving with that power. All advise and opinions welcome.

    Cheers n

    Si
    95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
    Subtle mods here and there


    2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
    With every option available (except a towball)
  • gnutz2
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    • Aug 2006
    • 928
    • Country: England

    #2
    I know that the casing on a rs2 box is differont to accomidate the wider first gear so you wont be able to upgrade the internals of your aby 6 speed box unless you modify the casing!
    Haven`t got a clue about the other boxes. sorry
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    • HPmuirt
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      • Apr 2005
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      #3
      Originally posted by gnutz2
      I know that the casing on a rs2 box is differont to accomidate the wider first gear so you wont be able to upgrade the internals of your aby 6 speed box unless you modify the casing!
      Haven`t got a clue about the other boxes. sorry
      Ahh, I didn't know that...thanks.

      So, option 1 is out unless I rebuild it to ABY spec, which seems pointless, so I guess I need to understand which is the better box to go for and where do I go to find one?

      All ideas welcome...good ideas rewarded with beer

      Cheers n

      Si
      95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
      Subtle mods here and there


      2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
      With every option available (except a towball)

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      • silizium
        S2Forum Fanatic
        • May 2005
        • 95
        • Country: Finland

        #4
        "The early variants of the CGR had a weak point on 1st gear but that was fixed mid MY94 and the CRB box on the RS2 is identical to the late made CGR."



        -Siliz

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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Originally posted by silizium
          "The early variants of the CGR had a weak point on 1st gear but that was fixed mid MY94 and the CRB box on the RS2 is identical to the late made CGR."



          -Siliz
          No the later CGR boxes had the same wide 1st gear ratio as the CRB but didn't have the CRB's flexible shaft.

          Thats my understanding of it.

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          • VladaS2
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            • Aug 2006
            • 185
            • Country: Yugoslavia

            #6
            I've got EDU from S4 in my 3B and its sensational.
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            • phil2.016v
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              • Mar 2006
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              #7
              Unless you're a fan of 7k launches, I'd replace like for like and save some £££££

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              • HPmuirt
                S2Forum April Fool
                • Apr 2005
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                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                #8
                Originally posted by phil2.016v
                Unless you're a fan of 7k launches, I'd replace like for like and save some £££££
                I only does the 7k launches sometimes orifisicer

                Seriously, what is the estimated cost to rebuild for a stock ABY box, versus an RS2 or S4 box? Also, where should I go for gearbox rebuilds?

                Cheers n

                Si
                95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
                Subtle mods here and there


                2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
                With every option available (except a towball)

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                • Jas11n
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 5067
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  All you ever wanted to know about 01E transmissions >>> Linky

                  And lots of info on the wider 1st gear with tips on how to identify which 6 speed you have >>> Linky

                  HTH's
                  Jas..
                  2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
                  2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
                  1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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                  • phil2.016v
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 300
                    • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HPmuirt
                    I only does the 7k launches sometimes orifisicer

                    Seriously, what is the estimated cost to rebuild for a stock ABY box, versus an RS2 or S4 box? Also, where should I go for gearbox rebuilds?

                    Cheers n

                    Si
                    I tried the 7k launch once!! Snapped the crank pulley

                    I had my CGR rebuilt for around 350.

                    Audi 80 2.0
                    E21 BMW 316
                    Ibiza Cupra Sport
                    Mk3 Golf GTI colour Concept in black!
                    Mk3 Golf GTI
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                    • HPmuirt
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                      • Apr 2005
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                      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                      #11
                      Originally posted by phil2.016v
                      I tried the 7k launch once!! Snapped the crank pulley
                      Wow

                      Originally posted by phil2.016v
                      I had my CGR rebuilt for around 350.
                      Cool...where?
                      95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
                      Subtle mods here and there


                      2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
                      With every option available (except a towball)

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