Clutch bleed help please!!

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  • Bowlerwell
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2005
    • 1052
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    Clutch bleed help please!!

    I've attached a small hose to the bleed nipple, and slackened it.
    Initially a small amount of fluid came out, but now nothing.

    The clutch pedal movement is entirely dominated by the springs: it is ither fully in or fully out.

    Please help...
    John Bowlerwell
    Electronic Engineer

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  • waad_uk
    S2Forum Addict
    • Jul 2006
    • 411
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I found the gunsons eazybleed did the job for me. Took a couple of mins once set up.

    When you sya you put a pipe on the nipple and slackened it, you was not leaving it there and expecting it to bleed itself? Sorry not trying to be cheeky!
    '93 S2 Coupe

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    • Bowlerwell
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Sep 2005
      • 1052
      • Country: Scotland

      #3
      Pipe on nipple, loosen nipple, then pump clutch.... nothing...
      John Bowlerwell
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      • Bowlerwell
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Sep 2005
        • 1052
        • Country: Scotland

        #4
        When we slacken the inlet to the slave cylinder and pump the clutch, we get fluid out. Yet we get nothing out the bleed nipple...
        ideas?
        John Bowlerwell
        Electronic Engineer

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        • Knight Rider S4
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Mar 2005
          • 3541
          • Country: Scotland

          #5
          I would be going down the easy bleed route as you could be making it worst.......I take it your friend press's the pedal and and nipple loose then tightened when the pedal is brought back up ?
          93 S2 Avant Parting
          91 URQ RR
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          • Bowlerwell
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Sep 2005
            • 1052
            • Country: Scotland

            #6
            yes. Dad opens the nipple, I depress the pedal. Dad closes the nipple, I retract the pedal.
            John Bowlerwell
            Electronic Engineer

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            • waad_uk
              S2Forum Addict
              • Jul 2006
              • 411
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Its also worth noting that the bleed nipple has to be undone a fair amount before it really lets the fluid pass through.. As we have very liitle room for manouver down there, you need to take the spanner off a couple of times just to get the nipple open enough. This is where the easy bleed makes life easier. Just pressurise the reservoir, then you can open the nipple up fully, let it bleed, and then do it up. Job done.

              Where you guys are doing the loosen pump and re-tighten method its really really hard to get the nipple open enough.
              '93 S2 Coupe

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              • Fat Audi 80
                Super Moderator
                • Jan 2004
                • 10547
                • Country: England

                #8
                Sounds like um, sound advice from Waad. I think you will struggle trying to bleed the classic way.

                Gunsons easybleed all the way for me.

                Good luck.

                Cheers,

                Steve.
                The Perfectionist
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                • Bowlerwell
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1052
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #9
                  I should mention this is on a LHD RS2. I guess the mechanism is the same.

                  Dad could hear a little gasp of air as he loosened the nipple. Is it possible that it was loose enough for air, but not for fluid?
                  John Bowlerwell
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                  • waad_uk
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                    • Jul 2006
                    • 411
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Yeah, it may be enough to let a little bit of air through. BTW thanks for the opporunity to write nipple so much in a post!
                    '93 S2 Coupe

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                    • s2driveruk
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 12696
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      another vote for the easibleed, i did my brakes and clutch when i finally got mine back on the road for the ring, brake pedal was solid and clutch with is a biatch of a job was a sinch with that. Definately needs a good wind out to get the fluid coming from the slave and is a PITA to tighten up properly again to save the air going in on the return.
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                      • waad_uk
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                        • Jul 2006
                        • 411
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Got to be worth £13....

                        http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-GUNSONS-EE...QQcmdZViewItem
                        '93 S2 Coupe

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                        • Fat Audi 80
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10547
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          Or Halfrauds....
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                          • Bowlerwell
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 1052
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #14
                            Thanks for the info guys!!

                            Tell me, how do I know that there is nothing wrong with the clutch itself?
                            Is this how the system should feel with no fluid in it: pedal being pushed either fully out, or fully in by the springs?
                            John Bowlerwell
                            Electronic Engineer

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                            • s2driveruk
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 12696
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              with no fluid or as i found when i pressed mine in with no gearbox on and shot the slave seal out, the pedal shot to the floor and needed to be pulled back up.
                              So, in short......YES
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