CBL 6-speed without spacer?

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  • quattrostyle
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Oct 2006
    • 6229
    • Country: Netherlands

    #1

    CBL 6-speed without spacer?

    No guys I won't ask what you're thinking.

    I had a UrS4 wich I used for parts, when I removed the gearbox I noticed there wasn't a spacer between the engine and gearbox, but it had a dual mass flywheel.

    Now i'm a bit confused, can I use the gearbox with 3B flywheel and clutch?
  • aronmatic2
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jan 2004
    • 2129
    • Country: Hungary

    #2
    yes.
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    • quattrostyle
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Oct 2006
      • 6229
      • Country: Netherlands

      #3
      if you say so...

      I had my doubt's because the S2's use a dual mass flywheel wíth spacer and in that case you can use a single mass and ditch the spacer, that's clear to me. But now, no spacer but with dual mass flywheel, I thought there should be too much space between the clutch and release bearing?

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      • aronmatic2
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Jan 2004
        • 2129
        • Country: Hungary

        #4
        Originally posted by quattrostyle
        if you say so...

        I had my doubt's because the S2's use a dual mass flywheel wíth spacer and in that case you can use a single mass and ditch the spacer, that's clear to me. But now, no spacer but with dual mass flywheel, I thought there should be too much space between the clutch and release bearing?
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        • quattrostyle
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Oct 2006
          • 6229
          • Country: Netherlands

          #5
          it apparently is

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          • gedu
            S2Forum Addict
            • Feb 2007
            • 295

            #6
            C4 chassis used dual-mass flywheel without spacer, it's that simple
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            • anton
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jan 2005
              • 802
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              does this mean the dual mass flywheel was a more comact version, the same size as a single mass, i assume??

              Ant
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              • saltinot
                S2Forum Extremist
                • May 2004
                • 1946

                #8
                In most cases,Single mass flywheels are more compact than their dual mass counterparts.

                The RS2/S2 uses a spacer because of the specific design of the flywheel/clutch/pressure plate used. On the S4/S6 a spacer isn't needed....different flywheel, etc.

                That being said, the urS4/S6 gearboxes and S2/RS2 gearboxes are all interchangable. However, if you use a flywheel from a RS2/S2 you must use the spacer. All of these gearboxes share the same bellhousing part number, by the way.

                The flywheel is the driver here. If you have a 3B flywheel use the associated pressure plate and clutch with your CBL and you'll be OK.

                It can get very confusing Hopefully that helps explain it a bit?

                Originally posted by anton
                does this mean the dual mass flywheel was a more comact version, the same size as a single mass, i assume??

                Ant

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                • quattrostyle
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 6229
                  • Country: Netherlands

                  #9
                  Perfect Tom! that explains it, thanks.

                  Something less to worry about then

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                  • saltinot
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • May 2004
                    • 1946

                    #10
                    You are welcome sir.

                    No reason why anyone should have to go through the same pain as I did trying to figure this out. It took a trip to Germany, ETKA, and some a few months before I got a handle on this topic. We didn't get the spacer setup here in the states.

                    Let me know if you run into anything else and I'll attempt to assist.

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                    • quattrostyle
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6229
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #11
                      I will Tom. Guess you can help me out with some other things in the future, you got a turbo's type 85 aswell right?

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                      • saltinot
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • May 2004
                        • 1946

                        #12
                        Originally posted by quattrostyle
                        you got a turbo's type 85 aswell right?
                        err, yes I do. why

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                        • quattrostyle
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 6229
                          • Country: Netherlands

                          #13
                          err because I will be building a 20VT in my 90q type 85 sir

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                          • saltinot
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • May 2004
                            • 1946

                            #14
                            excellent! I have a 20vt engine that is destined for my '85 urq. We will need to swap notes!

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                            • quattrostyle
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 6229
                              • Country: Netherlands

                              #15
                              do I understand correctly that it has a 10VT atm?

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