My first S2, question around snow today!

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  • ian4455
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Nov 2010
    • 787
    • Country: England

    #1

    My first S2, question around snow today!

    Ok this is my first S2 and drove today in the snow.

    My question is i set off from the traffic lights slight covering of snow on the road.:
    Lighty accelerated to find that the front wheels started to spin, not much traction????

    Is this correct ?
  • macspring
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2005
    • 6371
    • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

    #2
    Of no help whatsoever,

    Did you in fact buy a quattro ?


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    • Ian Simmonds
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jun 2005
      • 2858
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Yep, lock the diff or get enough power going to lock up the Torsen.
      85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
      93 MTMS2 Avant

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      • ian4455
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Nov 2010
        • 787
        • Country: England

        #4
        Yes its a S2 Quattro, didn't put my foot down as my partner was going balistic !! Take it that i need to give it some throttle when this happens to get the wheels to transfer the drive?

        So not knowing anything about these cars is it ok to lock the diff and hit the throttle ??know the diff lock automatically unlocks at a low speed.

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        • andy10v
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2009
          • 5996
          • Country: Scotland

          #5
          You can disable the automatic disengage of the rear diff lock by cutting the speed sensor wire to the diff lock controller unit under the rear seat.



          You are unlikely to brake the rear diff locking it and nailing it, the high power drag cars manage to give them some abuse.
          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
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          • Barber
            Banned
            • Apr 2009
            • 208
            • Country: England

            #6
            you should be getting it sideways everywhere like me last year when I had my old one! thats what they're made for man!
            here, this is how you do it hahaha
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QcGYT0MNB0

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            • Fat Audi 80
              Super Moderator
              • Jan 2004
              • 10547
              • Country: England

              #7
              Originally posted by andy10v
              You can disable the automatic disengage of the rear diff lock by cutting the speed sensor wire to the diff lock controller unit under the rear seat.



              You are unlikely to brake the rear diff locking it and nailing it, the high power drag cars manage to give them some abuse.
              You don't really want to make a habit of driving around with the diff lock engaged, this wil destroy tyres and the diff eventually. Hence the automatic cut off at 20mph...
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              • andy10v
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2009
                • 5996
                • Country: Scotland

                #8
                Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
                You don't really want to make a habit of driving around with the diff lock engaged, this wil destroy tyres and the diff eventually. Hence the automatic cut off at 20mph...
                Sorry, I was relying on a bit of common sense being applied.

                *Snow fun only.

                It can actually be useful to have the ability to lock it at higher speeds when driving in snow though.
                Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                Sold ABY-stock

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                • EspenW
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1534
                  • Country: Norway

                  #9
                  Summer tyres and snow is a bad combination. Get proper snow tyres for winter use (if you have at least semi regular snow/ice cover on your local roads)
                  1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
                  1994 80E Avant
                  1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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                  • s2_wot
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 2178

                    #10
                    Originally posted by EspenW
                    Summer tyres and snow is a bad combination. Get proper snow tyres for winter use (if you have at least semi regular snow/ice cover on your local roads)
                    Snow tyres or at a minimum winter tyres. Is the car on wide tyres?
                    Shane

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                    • quattrostyle
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6229
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #11
                      indeed winter tyres are worth it, my S2 with 225 Conti summer tyres was rubbish in the snow where my 80 type 81 FWD had no problems.

                      We had a tiny bit of snow last night, can't wait for next week when there will be more snow and having a go in my brothers type 44 quattro avant

                      I should of had my cq finished by now

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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        If you boot it then you should realise that the rear wheels are driven

                        The torsen is designed to stay open initally and then start to lock up with an imbalance of grip front and rear and the torsen can't solve that situation, if both front wheels lose grip then it can. If you spin up one wheel then it will spin, no LSDs front or rear but that does have its advantages. The diff lock trick does work for the rear but it'll not solve a front wheel spinning up. Old skool 4wd has its limitations but it works well 90% of the time. If you really want to scare you partner then get a BMW E30 snow car like I used last year. I had the most intense 1.5 mile drive I've ever had. It required more concentration than a fast lap of the 'ring in my S2 Power = sideways, brakes = sideways, sideways = sideways, sneezing = sideways, holding breath = sideways... you get the idea.
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • Si Blythe
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 346
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          That's why my E30 is staying firmly locked up in the garage!!!!
                          You might leave the S2 fold every so often - but you'll always come back!

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                          • Rusty
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 18953
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            I didn't have any choice, only time I took the S2 out I crashed into a kerb and damaged a wheel and knocked the tracking for 6... E30 snow car it was When I had the space to play, it was epic, when I didn't it was pretty terrifying but certainly focussed the mind and was a solid hit of adrenaline for sure!
                            Cheers'en, AndyC
                            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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