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  • Donatas
    S2Forum Buff
    • Oct 2011
    • 39
    • Country: Lithuania

    #1

    Please help, gearbox Audi s6 2.2T

    sry for my bad englisch, I have question my s6 2.2T gearbox failed , missing 1st and 2cond gear, so i think what better to do fix my 5 speed gearbox or buy 6 speed gearbox witch gearbox is better for acceleration , for top speed and for street drag races 5 speed or 6 speed ? ? 1 person said that 6 gear gerabox will give for my car about 30 - 40 nm for acceleration and it will go a lot better , and said example that 5 speed gearbox in 5k rpm will be 220km, and 6spees gearbox in 5 gear will be 260km. Said 6 speed gearbox kann reach 305km top speed, is it true or no ? and 6 speed gearbox is the same s6 2.2 turbo and A6 2.5 tdi 103 kw ???? or i need find from s6 gearbox ?
  • Donatas
    S2Forum Buff
    • Oct 2011
    • 39
    • Country: Lithuania

    #2
    if someone know withch 6 speed gearbox is better for acceleration power , drag ant top speed and if u know gearbox code please write gearbox code , thx

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    • UrS4boy
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Feb 2006
      • 11859
      • Country: Canada

      #3
      None of the 01E transmissions are truely suitable for drag racing. Some will break a little later, some sooner. But they will all break. An UrS4/S6 is a heavy machine.

      The six speeds still have the same 1st and 2nd gears as the five speeds. The CRB from the RS2 is probably the strongest transmission because of the design of the shaft that has 1st gear on it. Many people have swapped to the EDU or DSY transmissions from the 2.7 twin turbo V6s (C5 A6 or B4 S4). They have a taller 6th gear (lower RPMs on the highway).

      Here is a list of some of the info (its missing the CBL 6 spd info):

      http://12v.org/urs/charlie_smith/01E/
      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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      • Donatas
        S2Forum Buff
        • Oct 2011
        • 39
        • Country: Lithuania

        #4
        ok if u be in my place, what u chose better, use again 5 speed gearbox, or u better put 6 speed gearbox ?

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        • driftin jo
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Sep 2007
          • 2222
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Originally posted by UrS4boy
          None of the 01E transmissions are truely suitable for drag racing. Some will break a little later, some sooner. But they will all break. An UrS4/S6 is a heavy machine.

          The six speeds still have the same 1st and 2nd gears as the five speeds. The CRB from the RS2 is probably the strongest transmission because of the design of the shaft that has 1st gear on it. Many people have swapped to the EDU or DSY transmissions from the 2.7 twin turbo V6s (C5 A6 or B4 S4). They have a taller 6th gear (lower RPMs on the highway).

          Here is a list of some of the info (its missing the CBL 6 spd info):

          http://12v.org/urs/charlie_smith/01E/
          they also have a taller 5th gear as well if i'm not mistaken.

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          • UrS4boy
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Feb 2006
            • 11859
            • Country: Canada

            #6
            Originally posted by Donatas
            ok if u be in my place, what u chose better, use again 5 speed gearbox, or u better put 6 speed gearbox ?
            Me? I'd go with the a good DSY or EDU from a C5 A6 2.7tt (less likely to be abused than a B5 S4 2.7tt transmission). The only issue is you loose the ProConTen bracket if you have an UrS4 with ProConTen. You swap all the UrS shift linkage to the DSY/EDU transmission. Minor mounting "dowel" (guide) issue during the install. Other than that, you get a 0.68:1 top gear plus a closer between 2nd and top gear.

            ProConTen info: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/56644.phtml
            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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            • UrS4boy
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #7
              Originally posted by driftin jo
              they also have a taller 5th gear as well if i'm not mistaken.
              Naturally. http://12v.org/urs/charlie_smith/01E/
              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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              • AndyP
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Feb 2004
                • 6049
                • Country: England

                #8
                I have a 5 speed 01E gearbox for sale if your interested?

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                1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                • AndyP
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 6049
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Originally posted by UrS4boy

                  Here is a list of some of the info (its missing the CBL 6 spd info):

                  http://12v.org/urs/charlie_smith/01E/
                  I'm glad that site has been re-hosted, I thought we'd lost a load of valuable info there
                  sigpic
                  1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                  1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                  1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                  • caterpillar
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 2480

                    #10
                    tranny code = ratio???

                    Originally posted by UrS4boy
                    None of the 01E transmissions are truely suitable for drag racing. Some will break a little later, some sooner. But they will all break. An UrS4/S6 is a heavy machine.

                    The six speeds still have the same 1st and 2nd gears as the five speeds. The CRB from the RS2 is probably the strongest transmission because of the design of the shaft that has 1st gear on it. Many people have swapped to the EDU or DSY transmissions from the 2.7 twin turbo V6s (C5 A6 or B4 S4). They have a taller 6th gear (lower RPMs on the highway).

                    Here is a list of some of the info (its missing the CBL 6 spd info):

                    http://12v.org/urs/charlie_smith/01E/
                    AND the right ratio in front diff

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                    • UrS4boy
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11859
                      • Country: Canada

                      #11
                      Originally posted by caterpillar
                      AND the right ratio in front diff
                      Not sure what the question is. Yes, you have to match the front and rear diffs ratios. The CBD, CBL, CRB, CGR, DSY and ECU are all 4.11:1 (37/9).
                      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                      • Donatas
                        S2Forum Buff
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 39
                        • Country: Lithuania

                        #12
                        Originally posted by UrS4boy
                        Me? I'd go with the a good DSY or EDU from a C5 A6 2.7tt (less likely to be abused than a B5 S4 2.7tt transmission). The only issue is you loose the ProConTen bracket if you have an UrS4 with ProConTen. You swap all the UrS shift linkage to the DSY/EDU transmission. Minor mounting "dowel" (guide) issue during the install. Other than that, you get a 0.68:1 top gear plus a closer between 2nd and top gear.

                        ProConTen info: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/56644.phtml
                        mine is urs6 , and i think urs6 is without procon

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                        • UrS4boy
                          S2Forum Obsessed
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 11859
                          • Country: Canada

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Donatas
                          mine is urs6 , and i think urs6 is without procon
                          In theory, yes. I provided the ProCon-Ten post link for others to read, not just you.

                          Good luck finding a good 6 spd 01E transmission.

                          Strongly suggest that you don't drag race the car.

                          OR, if you do, don't cry when the transmission breaks (first gear spalling).
                          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                          • Donatas
                            S2Forum Buff
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 39
                            • Country: Lithuania

                            #14
                            my 5 speed gearbox hold 5 ear hard driving and city racings at night

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                            • Donatas
                              S2Forum Buff
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 39
                              • Country: Lithuania

                              #15
                              i think I will try to do 1 thing, fix my 5 speed gearbox and add 6 gear into it from a6c4 103kw. then will be awesome gearbox . because i kno that 5 speed gearbox is tronger than 6 speed gearbox

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