Looking for an S2...

[Jas11n]

^ what Paul said

[S2central.net]

Gonna have to look in my engine bay Jason... Maybe there is one mount on the chassis. I see that the family album lists different bodyshells for the 16V, V6 and S2 engined B4 80Q so that is consistent.

Guess I have missed a chapter having never owned a V6 engined 80Q before. They are desperately rare on this island.

Paul

[faaaaast]

Guys,

Wow, thanks for all that info! My disposable income isn't huge right now, so it would really depends on what comes up and at what price... I have a few options right now, mostly centred around either an S2 coupe which needs a slight rebuild, or possibly just buying an S2 coupe (I'm not an Avant fan) which is the right price and condition, but maybe needs a little TLC... However, if neither of these pay off, I might be tempted to find a nice B4 80Q V6 and sourcing an S2 Avant to gradually build an S2 sedan as funds allow. In the meantime I always have a lovely 2WD 80 V6 to keep me fairly happy. When you specify the ABY loom, is that because it's what would come on the Avant, or would the 3B wiring not be compatible? Dunno how easy it would be to reposition all the rads, loom brackets in the engine bay, etc. Would you need to change any of the fuel delivery (e.g. fuel pump), or would the V6 cope with the S2 engine?

Paul, you brought up a question I was going to ask. I was searching on E*KA last night seeing which parts were common. I came across the propshaft, but the parts catalogue was vague as it sometimes is. It was showing three part numbers for the ACOQ, only one of which was labelled with a model: ABY. The others had no model designation, only one was labelled 60mm. I was comparing this with a 1990 80Q, because I was actually trying to cross-reference to see if any of the Blauparts propshaft rebuild kits would be OK for an S2 Coupe. The 80Q showed the same to (non-ABY labelled) parts. But this was inconclusive... Anyone know if the S2 3B shares a propshaft with any of the other Audi group cars - coupe/80/90/S4, etc. of the same period? It would be nice to do a driveshaft/centre bearing rebuild and know it was done...

Cheers,
James

[amanda]

cheap on ebay and has had no bids
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1994-AUDI-COUP...QQcmdZViewItem

[faaaaast]

Thanks for the head's up Amanda. That one has one of the things I don't want to get into dealing with - bodywork!

I'm also suspicious about the lack of pictures; not surprised he hasn't had any bids yet really.

Lovely looking coupe you have there!

James

[Fat Audi 80]

cheap on ebay and has had no bids
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1994-AUDI-COUP...QQcmdZViewItem

And no photo's!

Good luck selling it....

[faaaaast]

Guys,

What's the fuel consumption on the S2 (dare I ask?!)

:mischeif:

James

[Cullam3n]

and especially 200,000mi i would want a more detailed description, when I see "good project" means that it's not running up to par

[terrybullwon]

Guys,

What's the fuel consumption on the S2 (dare I ask?!)

:mischeif:

James

About 17mpg on the isle with a heavy foot and about 22mpg sensible
But i think a few forum members have seen more, never sure on the SUL we get

[Flat on my back]

Hmmmmmm...

'the B4 chassis A80Q from chassis no 8CP has the RS2 rear suspension setup'

Which year please.:mischeif:

[faaaaast]

About 17mpg on the isle with a heavy foot and about 22mpg sensible
But i think a few forum members have seen more, never sure on the SUL we get

Bit more than my V6 with a heavy/light foot, then

Mind you, I'm not planning on mine being as modded as yours - I guess that has an effect on the fuel gauge...?

James

[faaaaast]

'the B4 chassis A80Q from chassis no 8CP has the RS2 rear suspension setup'

Which year please.:mischeif:

Apologies, it appears it was 8CN that was the changeover point. Maybe someone else can comment, because I have a feeling that this might actually be the case for all B4 chassis cars, i.e. that all B4 Quattros had the RS2 setup, all B3s did not?

I believe the 8CN chassis was 1992-3 model year, but it may have been 91 if all B4s run this.

Bear in mind I'm only talking about the B4 Quattro rear setup. The 2WD B4 didn't have independent rear suspension...

It's easy to tell if you have the car there; the earlier setup just has a lower wishbone and strut.

Later (RS2 type) setup is upper/lower wishbones and wheel bearing housing:



Hope this helps...
James

[terrybullwon]

Bit more than my V6 with a heavy/light foot, then

Mind you, I'm not planning on mine being as modded as yours - I guess that has an effect on the fuel gauge...?

James

I think Mihnea's map made a huge difference to the car. It made it very enjoyable and the MPG got even better i would say

[faaaaast]

Hmm, curious indeed... :mischeif:

[S2central.net]

Its my understanding all the B4 quattros have the same setup. RS2 got special dampers and ARBs in the suspension department but thats it.

What you want is a tidy 80Q B4 shell (v6) and an S2 Avant that is a bit rough - maybe even gently rear ended. If you extract all the S2 specific bits from that Avant and graft them into the 80Q B4 sedan you are there. Just like that. You could even cut the engine mounts from the S2 (measure first) and weld them into the V6 shell - Jason was right about this - I had never realised the engine mounts picked up on a chassis bracket before.

So the non exhaustive list of big items to move would be -

- Engine, complete with hoses, radiators, fuel lines, oil cooler, loom and ECU
- Front subframe and engine mount bracketry (trickiest bit I think)
- Clutch, Gearbox, propshaft and all driveshafts. Oh the rear diff as well...
- Fuel pump and accomodation for EVAP / PCV plumbing
- 5x112 hubs, springs and dampers all round - go with RS2 spec including ARBs
- Instrument cluster, carbon trim, gear linkage, seats and whatnot
- Battery relocation maybe
- Hydraulic system from S2 needs grafting in as well, along with steering rack
- Oh you'll need the intercooler - RS2 version is better and the S2 or RS2 bumpers.

Och its just a few days work - for a hundred men - LOL

Paul