MRC re-map - what can I expect ?

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  • smogthemog
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    • Oct 2006
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    #1

    MRC re-map - what can I expect ?

    As title really?

    What can I expect to happen once I turn up there?

    Apart from being very happy on the drive home

    Thanks

    Jim
    Last edited by s2avant; 24 October 2007, 17:37. Reason: Maintain privacy
    Jim B
    97 S6 AAN Quattro Avant C4 | Powerflow Cat Back EX | Milltek Hyperboost RV | MAC N75 Valve | FMIC | HID's (Dip & Fog's)| MRC Re-map SII | Carbon interior | De-chromed | Short shift | Samco Air Hoses |

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  • Jamo
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    • Mar 2004
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    #2
    you can expect to be greeted by a smiling scotsman

    Doug will check you car over wit a healthcheck to make sure the car is running properly prior to mapping, a few vagcom sessions and then a few runs up the MRC test track taking logs on the car to verify the engines perfomance

    I don't know what type of map your having as you haven't stated if it's generic or a real time map. If it's a real time one prepare to meet the nutty professor of motronics!
    Last edited by Jamo; 22 October 2007, 08:52.

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    • S2central.net
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      • Jul 2003
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      #3
      The nutty professor - LOL - is he still puttin on the pounds then - Hehehee. (Like I can talk)
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      • smogthemog
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        #4
        It's the stage II re-map not the generic.

        Excellent - sounds interesting. Can't wait to find out what the car is doing as it is now, before the re-map.

        EDIT - does the real time re-map mean they don't actually use a dyno?

        Thanks

        Jim
        Jim B
        97 S6 AAN Quattro Avant C4 | Powerflow Cat Back EX | Milltek Hyperboost RV | MAC N75 Valve | FMIC | HID's (Dip & Fog's)| MRC Re-map SII | Carbon interior | De-chromed | Short shift | Samco Air Hoses |

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        • Jamo
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          • Mar 2004
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          #5
          Originally posted by smogthemog
          It's the stage II re-map not the generic.

          Excellent - sounds interesting. Can't wait to find out what the car is doing as it is now, before the re-map.

          EDIT - does the real time re-map mean they don't actually use a dyno?

          Thanks

          Jim
          Thats what's seperates MRC from other tuners they map the car "live" i.e on the road

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          • dan_b
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            • Sep 2003
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            #6
            Yep, the MRC test track is a very interesting experience. Mihnea sits in the car with his laptop reading the codes directly off the (emulated) ECU of your car and tweaks settings while you boot it. It's like a scene from The Matrix!

            You'll be doing lots of "timed runs". Check your speed to see if the tweaks result in extra speed, which of course means extra power...

            You will have a great time...
            Last edited by Jamo; 24 October 2007, 17:39.
            Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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            • LHD_Kid
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              • May 2006
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              #7
              How do they map at full throttle, at high revs in top gear? (and keep below 70 moh ofcourse.... )
              Also, does this real time mapping not involve in never mapping any less than usual driving condition mappings? Like, top gear, 20mph, etc etc etc...
              Just wondering what thoughts were on this?
              My bike, for example, will have to be mapped first on an engine dyno (not rolling road)
              and then the map tweaked a fair bit whilst on road, with a laptop, but can't be done real time, as it's very hard to ride and fiddle with a laptop at the same time...!!!!
              Cannot be done on a rolling road either, as there is no ram air effect...
              Its all very interesting.....
              Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
              S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
              '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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              • dan_b
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                #8
                You drive repeated runs at full throttle up a steep hill in higher and higher gears to get full load on the engine, then down the hill on very light throttle to get the light load settings optimised.

                Let's just say that some of the more powerful cars that have mapped there have been known to slightly exceed the national speed limit by a few mph...
                Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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                • dest
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                  • Feb 2006
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  Thats what's seperates MRC from other tuners they map the car "live" i.e on the road
                  I can think of others that do it too

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                  • Jamo
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dest
                    I can think of others that do it too
                    Interesting!, who for the record?

                    I don't know any others that do it on the road with a real time simulator for the I5

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                    • dest
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                      • Feb 2006
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                      #11
                      MSD in Blackpool for one (www.remapping.co.uk)
                      Id be willing to bet money that they could map an S2 live, its only Motronic at the end of the day!

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                      • Jamo
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                        • Mar 2004
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dest
                        MSD in Blackpool for one (www.remapping.co.uk)
                        Id be willing to bet money that they could map an S2 live, its only Motronic at the end of the day!
                        Heh well that's not true as you can't access motronics via a cable like the 1.8T you have to plug a simulator into the ecu port or via the chip ports in the ecu.

                        I'll have a bet with you phone them up and ask if they can I won't post for a week

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                        • dest
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                          • Feb 2006
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                          #13
                          I suggest you read this page first then LOL



                          A run down of what they do when you take your car in for a live map.
                          Scroll down the page to chapter 6, oh, whats that!? Surely not an emulator plugged into the ecu where the chip once sat?
                          Trust me, they REALLY REALLY know their stuff when it comes to live mapping

                          See ya next Thursday mate

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                          • DJones
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                            • Jun 2005
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                            #14
                            Automark also does it live with an emulator..

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                            • Nuvo
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                              • Nov 2003
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                              #15
                              Does anyone know the names of the in circuit emulator hardware and software that MRC and others use for live mapping? I'd be interested in reading up a little more about it.

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