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  • K Simmonds
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Dec 2007
    • 7627
    • Country: Wales

    #16
    Cheers, I just back from a 40 mile B road blast and am really happy with the set up, especially as it cost very little and is just a stop gap untill I can get my hands on some Coilovers. I think the Coupe quattro H&R's are about £180 tops new. Be intresting to hear how you get on with the Cobra ones if you decide to go for them.
    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
    1994 MTM RS2.
    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
    2000 B5 TQS.

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    • s2robbo
      S2Forum Enthusiast
      • Mar 2008
      • 111
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      just spoke to dan at dc and he said that cobra them selves havent sold many s2 springs .so i went for the h&rs and he got them down to £208.27 deliverd. ill let someone els try the cobras .there about £125.

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      • K Simmonds
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Dec 2007
        • 7627
        • Country: Wales

        #18
        Are you sticking with standard dampers or planning on upgrading them at the same time as fitting the springs?
        1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
        1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
        1994 MTM RS2.
        1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
        2000 B5 TQS.

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        • re2500
          S2Forum Fiend
          • May 2007
          • 2185
          • Country: Wales

          #19
          Sorry is that £208.27 for the 29939 s2 h&r spring kit?? from dcdezign??

          I just payed £280 a couple of weeks ago? from dan!!
          Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
          03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
          01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

          "Difficult is worth doing"

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          • s2robbo
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Mar 2008
            • 111
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            im going to use standard dampers for now. dan from dc said h&r have drop there prices i paid the full amount the he called and said there cheeper.

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            • re2500
              S2Forum Fiend
              • May 2007
              • 2185
              • Country: Wales

              #21
              NO way! ARGH!!! H&R piss me off. they messed up delivery too. Dan at dcdezign is wicked, but now im annoyed! i payed £80 more for the sake of 2 weeks! DOH!
              Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
              03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
              01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

              "Difficult is worth doing"

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              • re2500
                S2Forum Fiend
                • May 2007
                • 2185
                • Country: Wales

                #22
                Just had a moan to dan at dcdezign. He said its the avant springs that are cheaper that he ordered recently. Coupe ones are still £280.
                Phew.
                Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
                03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

                "Difficult is worth doing"

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                • gonzo79
                  S2Forum Fanatic
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 74
                  • Home: Germany

                  #23
                  Originally posted by K Simmonds
                  Managed to get some photos sorted.
                  This looks very nice...

                  Are these the 29939? Or did ou use Springs with other Numbers?

                  Tanks

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                  • K Simmonds
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 7627
                    • Country: Wales

                    #24
                    Originally posted by gonzo79
                    This looks very nice...

                    Are these the 29939? Or did ou use Springs with other Numbers?

                    Tanks
                    My word this is an old thread...from my first year of S2 ownership!

                    The springs fitted in those photo's were H&R Coupe quattro item's which I purchased second hand from another member, most of the paint had gone so I can't confirm what numbers they had on them.

                    After those I went for proper H&R S2 Coupe H&R 29939 VA/HA springs which looked like this.



                    They had the following dimensions.

                    Front:
                    Wire diameter: 13.5mm
                    No of coils: 7.5

                    Rear:
                    Wire diameter: 13mm
                    No of coils: 6.5

                    Later H&R kits use the same springs on the rear as the front.

                    I didn't get on with them very well so put the car back on stock non air-con springs from a late ABY, I found the H&R's too harsh for everyday road use and the back end sat lower than the front.
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                    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                    1994 MTM RS2.
                    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                    2000 B5 TQS.

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                    • gonzo79
                      S2Forum Fanatic
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 74
                      • Home: Germany

                      #25
                      Originally posted by K Simmonds
                      My word this is an old thread...from my first year of S2 ownership!

                      The springs fitted in those photo's were H&R Coupe quattro item's which I purchased second hand from another member, most of the paint had gone so I can't confirm what numbers they had on them.

                      After those I went for proper H&R S2 Coupe H&R 29939 VA/HA springs which looked like this.



                      They had the following dimensions.

                      Front:
                      Wire diameter: 13.5mm
                      No of coils: 7.5

                      Rear:
                      Wire diameter: 13mm
                      No of coils: 6.5

                      Later H&R kits use the same springs on the rear as the front.

                      I didn't get on with them very well so put the car back on stock non air-con springs from a late ABY, I found the H&R's too harsh for everyday road use and the back end sat lower than the front.
                      That picture is with oem springs, or isn't it?

                      Are the 29939 to harsh, or the first h&r springs? did you used Bilstein B6?

                      Why did you change the first H&R Springs? Do you have better pictures of the first - non 29939 - ones?

                      Ho does they feel?
                      Best regards

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                      • K Simmonds
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 7627
                        • Country: Wales

                        #26
                        Originally posted by gonzo79
                        That picture is with oem springs, or isn't it?

                        Are the 29939 to harsh, or the first h&r springs? did you used Bilstein B6?

                        Why did you change the first H&R Springs? Do you have better pictures of the first - non 29939 - ones?

                        Ho does they feel?
                        Best regards
                        I did a lot of mucking about with springs and dampers as soon as the car was back on the road after being reassembled, from the date it was taken I'm pretty sure that shot is with the H&R's with Koni's and solid alloy top mounts. However I could be wrong and the car is parked on a kinda funny angle so it's far from an ideal illustration.

                        So I've been back through my project thread and found this photo which I took just before getting an MOT for the first time in five years....



                        I'm 100% sure that is with the 29939 springs, Koni's and solid alloy top mounts which make the car sit about 5mm or so higher. My car is less than 1350kg's which will make it sit a little higher. I also used some different upper spring plates on the rear which raised it about 10mm to try even up the ride height, I can't remember what they were from though.

                        Unfortunately I don't have any other photo's when on the CQ springs, anyway they were quite well used so probably sat lower than they would new.

                        I've driven a few S2's, both Coupe's and Avants fitted with H&R springs and various dampers including Bilstein B6's and don't get on with them. From what I can tell they work best with the B6 dampers but I still found the car(s) skittish compared to on stock springs on anything other than perfect surfaces.

                        If you want to go lower then coil-overs are the way to go
                        Last edited by K Simmonds; 4 May 2016, 07:42.
                        1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                        1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                        1994 MTM RS2.
                        1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                        2000 B5 TQS.

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