Audi RS2 or Audi-Porsche RS2?

[RS2fan]

[aRtiS]

Hallo mates!

he goes request, that I have sent to some personally:


As thread says I'm going to fight for accordant registration here in Latvia - not just only "Audi RS2"

Please help me with scanned registration document, where "Audi Porsche RS2" is seen

Please sent this to my office mail artis.s@nnvt.lv


Thanks in advance

Artis

[UrS4boy]

In going back through *this* thread, I think the answer is there is no ONE answer. The Audi RS2 was registered differently in different countries, there was not just one format. Some countries included an indication of the collaboration with Porsche, others ignored that part, probably since the car was sold through Audi, not Porsche.

There are 4 RS2s that have been imported into Canada in the last 2 years. I know the owners of three of them. All three of their cars came from Germany so their original registration papers would have that German ARGE designation, etc. 2 of the 3 are S2forum members and hopefully will confirm my guess.

[Carl Avant]

Mine just says Audi RS2.

Too ---- Mine just says Audi RS2 (body type : Estate)

[Bowlerwell]

It was my LHD one that was Audi-porsche. My current RHD is just Audi.

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[veneto rs2]

Mail sent.

Stefano

[aRtiS]

Thanks a lot Stefano for your help

Did u receive press release about RS2 in Italian from me?

Artis

[aRtiS]

Members from Estonia and Lithuania are very welcome to respond to send coy of registration document with record “Audi – Porsche RS2”.

[carboRS2]

Spain Audi/Porsche

Mine, also in Spain, says manufacturer: Audi, model: RS-2
No porsche reference at all.

[aRtiS]

Thanks for info, carboRS2

[Donald Smith]

My title simply states Audi 80 Avant,in Canada, but it did start off as Audi RS2 Avant in France. Also marked is the motor size..1.8L.The registration bureau insisted my car did not exist. Oh well!!

[kimandrb]

Mine says: Audi Porsche Arge Avant in the registration papers. From Norway.

[veneto rs2]

Thanks a lot Stefano for your help

Did u receive press release about RS2 in Italian from me?

Artis

Yes got it!

Much appreciated, Many thanks...... it's in Spanish not in Italian... but as everyone knows we and the Spaniards understand each other pretty well

Nice piece of press by the way!

Stefano

[veneto rs2]

In going back through *this* thread, I think the answer is there is no ONE answer. The Audi RS2 was registered differently in different countries, there was not just one format. Some countries included an indication of the collaboration with Porsche, others ignored that part, probably since the car was sold through Audi, not Porsche.

There are 4 RS2s that have been imported into Canada in the last 2 years. I know the owners of three of them. All three of their cars came from Germany so their original registration papers would have that German ARGE designation, etc. 2 of the 3 are S2forum members and hopefully will confirm my guess.

I found *this* thread pretty interesting and knowing your precision on everything Dave I reckon ti should be of some interest to you aswell.

The answer it's just one.

The two companies joined together on a "joint venture" or "work group" or "ARGE" to produce the car.

Some countries had things on papers done properly some others did'nt.

I remember a lovely conversation about this issue or "The RS2 Issue" in LeMans with Tom/Saltinot, Paul/S2Central, Me, Dave/S2diveruk and Kevin Thiel (Author of that lovely and extensive book about the Audi 80) from Audi Tradition.

Kevin Thiel stated that:

The car was finished/assembled/painted/built in Zuffenhausen meaning that the car was phisically coming out from a Porsche factory as a vehicle.
The "C" on the VIN number stands for Zuffenhausen.

I'm sure he gave us more infos during that evening but everything (firstly our clear mind abilities) then started to go ballistic....all because german beer,limoncello,italian wine, salami, good company, nice friends etc etc

How important this "RS2 issue" it is now and will be?

Well IMHO less then 3000 pieces produced, togheter with Porsche with badges name stickers paint codes (some) and bits and pieces....
I'll keep it and personally I wolud'nt change it (in terms of collectable value) with any "quattro GmbH" release.


Stefano

[UrS4boy]

I found *this* thread pretty interesting and knowing your precision on everything Dave I reckon ti should be of some interest to you aswell....
The two companies joined together on a "joint venture" or "work group" or "ARGE" to produce the car. Kevin Thiel stated that: The car was finished/ assembled/ painted/ built in Zuffenhausen meaning that the car was phisically coming out from a Porsche factory as a vehicle. The "C" on the VIN number stands for Zuffenhausen. ...Stefano

Well the "C" might relate to the joint venture and therefore indirectly to Porsche's Zuffenhausen assembly plant where they had just finished the contract with Mercedes to assemble the 500E *BUT* the real designation that locks in Zuffenhausen as the assembly plant is the 11th digit/letter in the VIN.

Here is a real 95 RS2 VIN (with the last four numbers changed to protect the innocent ):

WACZZZ8CZSZ001234

W = Germany
A = Audi
C = ?? The joint venture ?? Normal Audis have "U" that equates to Audi passenger vehicle
ZZZ = All Audi's have that on the firewall/cowl stamp. North American vehicles have more info, e.g. my 93 UrS4 has HP8 where H = S4 sedan P = 2.2L turbo, 8 = steering wheel and passenger air bags.
8C = B4 Audi 90 (B3s were "89", my UrS4 is 4A, hence a lot of the parts start 4A)
Z = the check sum result (I only know the C4 algorithm)
S = 1995 model year
Z = Zuffenhausen assembly plant
001234 = the production number for that car.

Here are the plant codes for the 11th digit. The C4 UrS4/S6s were built in Neckarsulm Germany (near Heidelberg) so they have "N" for the 11th digit. The RS2s were Zuffenhausen, so "Z".