Audi RS2 or Audi-Porsche RS2?

[aRtiS]

Hi Folks!

I’ve got the question, which was not possible to clarify even from legal Latvian institutions.
The story is following:
I’ve purchased the car RS2 in Switzerland.
In the registration document of previous owner was written:
Fahzeugdaten: Marke: Audi-Porsche Avant RS2

As I have seen example of registration document issued in Germany:
Fahzeughesteller: ARGE Audi Porsche

When I received registrations document here in Latvia, I was slightly surprised:
Marke: Audi
Type: RS2 Avant

Representatives from according local institutions say, that’s the kind of database. Nothing can be changed.

The word “Porsche” has disappeared.

Questions:
1.How this kind of car is named in other country’s registrations documents?
2. Where and how to get right and undisputable information about precise name and type of RS2 - in order to act as an opponent to our car registration institutions?

Thanks!

[lind4hl]

in my country it is also named audi avant rs2

but i call it porsche

[Smiley]

In Germany there is a car number, called KBA, the first is the manufacturer, the second is the model
Audi S2 Avant ABY: 0588 575
Audi-Porsche RS2 7907 300 or 7907 301

so the 0588 refers to Audi, and 7907 refers to Audi-Porsche. Don't know if Audi-Porsche is the absolute correct name..
So at least in the official german documents there is a difference between Audi and Audi-Porsche.

[Smiley]

So, i got it. Correct is
Arbeitsgemeinschaft Audi Porsche
which is abbreviated to
ARGE Audi Porsche
which means something like a joint venture.

[monstereddie]

Smiley is correct.

ARGE is a work group. ARGE is also used by Mercedes-Benz and Porsche for the E500 Model.
I dont understand your concern, the car is registrated, you are allowed to drive it, right?
Is it, because people dont believe, that it has something to do with Porsche and you need a proof??
Whats the background?

[aRtiS]

Smiley is correct.

ARGE is a work group. ARGE is also used by Mercedes-Benz and Porsche for the E500 Model.
I dont understand your concern, the car is registrated, you are allowed to drive it, right?
Is it, because people dont believe, that it has something to do with Porsche and you need a proof??
Whats the background?

The background is:
1. Interest, why car is registered different in different countries.
2. What is the right (original) cars name and type.
3. if it is really Audi Porsche, it should be in official document. If it’s possible to get official approval maybe it is worth trying to offer to according local institution.

Nobody asks: show me the registrations document. It’s all just to clarify situation.

That’s my onion.

[veneto rs2]

Hi all

I can confirm that on italian paper on the part referred to Make/Brand it's stated ARGE Audi/Porsche P1 KA11 (AVANT RS2)
Now ther're some issues that can make this important or not.....
Insurance Companies in Italy try always to avoid paying big money on the event of an accident.
The insurance company have this professional man that comes to the carbody shop to view the vehicle and this fella as the right to say the amount of damage involved ence the amount of maoney that can or cannot be payd off.

The amount of money that can be payd by the insurance cannot be more then the market value of the car.
They can do this by law!
This fellas usually put the RS2s into the Audi80 avant range of value....... and that as you can imagine can become a nightmare for us.

Of course you can go in court and sew the company the driver or whoever you want..... but you do not want to take this path in Italy..... (probably my son Mrco 1,5 years can see the end of it eventually)

Last time i had this kind of trouble i took out my RS2 document and i asked to this "professional" guy:WHERE is written that the car's an Audi 80?
And more: WHERE is it stated that the car's an Audi?

This as you understand save my wallet...... and my RS2 aswell.
I had front lights front bumper main and secondary cooler ac compressor.... involved
And it was somebody else that runned into my car!

Another thing it's the romantic side, or the collector point of you.
I completely understand aRtiS disappointment........if the car's an AudiPorsche in the beginning..... i want THAT stated on my documents.
If it can be of any help here's a copy of my documents (without the privat infos)

Stefano

[aRtiS]

Thanks, Stefano, for explanation and attachment.

[UrS4boy]

I believe that if you consult Audi, e.g. by looking in ETKA, they call the RS2 an Audi 80 Avant RS2 quattro. I think this is true of the manuals as well.

Dave F.

[Skaala]

My sticker on the first page in the service book says "ARGE Audi-Porsche 80 Avant RS2 P1 2.2TQ" Norwegian Registration says "Audi RS2 P1"

[Tomquattro]

Mine just says Audi RS2.

[aRtiS]

Statistics following:

Switzerland: Audi-Porsche Avant RS2
Germany: ARGE Audi Porsche
Italy: ARGE Audi/Porsche P1 KA11 (AVANT RS2)
Latvia: Audi RS2 Avant
Sweden: Audi Avant RS2
Norway: Audi RS2 P1
UK: Audi RS2

[jade]

Spain Audi/Porsche

[EspenW]

My registration document says (If I remember correctly):

Maker: Audi
Model: Porsche Avant RS2

Note that the VIN number starts with WAC, while Audis start with WAU

The interesting thing is that Audi will not call it an Audi and Porsche will not call it a Porsche, so it is a true hybrid of sorts.

[Bowlerwell]

Eh, I'm in the UK and mine is an Audi Porsche.