Student Demonstrations

[montez]

And how many people from less privelidged backgrounds than yours will be going to University? Very few, if any low income parents will be able to send their children on to University!
Tell me just where does all the vast amounts of money go from these under staffed/over populated courses...University is just a business and they just want the maximum amount of students on as many pointless courses as possible, they dont give a **** about the students...it's all about raking in the money.

I am privileged to be at university but that is it. I had poor qualifications from school and it was only though my hard work as an engineering apprentice that I made it to university.I am not from a well off background, I am on the cusp of the student loans bracket so I am worse off than most of my fellow students not even getting enough loan to cover my university fees and accommodation (let alone food). It is only through very generousness Grandparents that I can just about afford to study at this level, if they did not lend me money I could not afford to go.

[Gazjen]

But you can run an S2?



what about the other government initiative to get people back to work who have been on the dole for longer than 6 months??

They are employed by a local company (shall remain nameless) to work at there company and earn a "qualification" that can be anything useless in the real world.

The company are paid by the government plus an extra bit to put with them and they in turn pay the employee how the hell is that helping the economy?

I wouldn't mind but most of them are kids who have never done a days work in there life and more annoyingly don't have any intention of doing a day's work either

I was a modern apprentice and went to college and Uni ish (HNC, HND) and I firmly believe I made the right decision to do that and gain the experience and training at the same time although I realise I was one of lucky ones to be offered that

Problem is with people today is they expect to be paid just for getting out of bed before dinner time

Right that's it now I'm off to drink some Horlicks

[andyg plym]

f**king students They piss me off something chronic :corey:

I went to uni, paid through the ****ing nose for it, still paying off ££££s of debt and these lazy c**ts want me and you to pay for them to go too?

Get ****ing real you bunch of lazy, road furniture obsessed ******s. Maybe if you were actually studying something worthwhile rather than "drama therapy" you might not resent paying for some worthwhile education.

I'll ****ing educate the ****ing lot of them with my breaker bar

corr blimey alex!!

dont hold back, tell it how it is

[newsh]

Lol, we're a grumpy bunch, eh? I got an apprenticeship, started on 4 quid a week, college for the first year, then day release, City and Guilds, a real useful practical education. I was lucky, I loved it and I got good grades, I'm still using that education every day of my life as I use a hand tool or sharpen a drill or put a new switch on the wall or replace my central heating pump.., I got FA from school, (2 O levels and a budgerigar)
Where are the companies offering this now?
Unis these days are like hospitals, more admin than lecturers/doctors, if you teach you have to apply for a pencil..
My lad went to Uni, poorly advised he took a course not suited to him and he lost motivation, 3 yrs later he returned with nothing more than a large debt.

[Laurel]

Aha! Only just saw this thread! How refreshing! I posted something on my facebook the other week when the first protests took place, it was along the lines of "I am disgusted at the behaviour in London today" and guess what, I got loads of abuse from "friends" who all supported the protests and started mouthing off at the Government as evil Nazis.

I'm 21, a large portion of my "friends" are old school mates who are all at University.....know your audience Laura. Ppft.

I didn't go to University, was about to apply for BYU in the states when I met Ross. Took the old fashioned, get married, have kids route instead. I like to think that a few years down the line when I will take my degree in Business and Creative Writing that I will be mature enough to spend my student loan on study materials (instead of booze) and my time on studying (rather than partying/getting high/defacing statues of highly respected former Prime Ministers) I think it's an absolute JOKE how students are these days. A graduate is becoming too common in society and making graduate jobs less valuable due to high demand. Whilst it is a wonderful thought to educate the Nation for free, it doesn't work so well in practice. Especially when there are courses like "Philosphy and Star Trek" (Georgetown Uni)

That's my rant over with.

[DamianURS4]

interesting how degrees are two-a-penny and now proper apprenticeships are highly sought after.

[Jack4688]

I can't say I care whether someone is doing a 'real' course or not. I may be doing an engineering course (that included a hugely valuable industrial placement year last year in the R&D dept. of a mechanical engineering company) but that doesn't mean my degree is worth more than some of the degrees my friends are doing in fashion or graphic design etc. It is more valuable for me for getting a job in mechanical engineering and a fashion degree will be valuable for my housemate's prospects of getting a job in fashion. So why should anyone care if a degree seems worthless to them - if it helps someone start a career in the industry they're interested in, who gives a s***?

The real money/time wasters everyone should be criticising are the people who disappear between first and second year because they realised university wasn't constant getting drunk/laid/drugged up to the eyeballs and you have to do some work to let the university keep you on for the subsequent years. Actually, A LOT of work. This idea of getting up past noon every day and going out drinking EVERY night isn't the reality. And it's sure as hell easier and less stressful to go to work 5 days a week!

My guess is that the people causing trouble are of the type described in paragraph 2 of this rant and so will find it too hard in first year (which is piss easy to be honest) and fek off. If anyone manages to do 3 years of copping out at uni I would be truely amazed.


As for the rise in fees, I couldn't care less, I'm finished with uni at the end of this year

[Dan]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...e-problem.html

*adds fuel to the fire*

[DamianURS4]

I like Pink Floyd, hate X-Factor and would rather be driving than listen to this bloody drivel......