Started a site

[Thuppu]

Ok that elucidate a lot, but you had a funny way to share this info in first place..?

[Phil Payne]

Ok that elucidate a lot, but you had a funny way to share this info in first place..?

Do a Google search on my name - the top four are me. Have you any idea how much longer it would take me to help people if I had to write out every single post like that one?

Fact: There was a hidden link on prj's page. I flagged it non-judgementally using sufficient emphasis to get him to change it.

And the end effect is that his site will not be excluded from the Google index. Is this a bad thing - it looks a good site to me?

[driftin jo]

It doesn't really matter what sort of site it is, or even really that it's a site at all. The problem is that it was hidden.

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769&&hl=en

If you scroll down to "Quality guidelines - specific guidelines" you'll find the first one is:

"Avoid hidden text or hidden links."

That's a link - click on it you'll be taken to:

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66353

Scroll down that again and you'll find:


How is 'Bye, bye - nice knowing you' constructive criticism ? seriously what was that for ?
You don't seriously believe this is constructive or helpful ? If you had wanted to be helpful you could have just pointed it out. As you also seem to know it was not put there by PRJ then this just makes it worse.
It just makes you come across as an arrogant ****head. I think Dale Carnegie may be able to help !

How is that for constructive criticism
"If your site is perceived to contain hidden text and links that are deceptive in intent, your site may be removed from the Google index, and will not appear in search results pages. When evaluating your site to see if it includes hidden text or links, look for anything that's not easily viewable by visitors of your site. Are any text or links there solely for search engines rather than visitors?"

prj's link to a poker site was hidden. Google has just updated its algorithms (search on 'google panda') and greatly increased the probability that a site with hidden text or links will be excluded from Google.

I actually thought I might be helping, but I've learnt my lesson.

How is 'Bye, bye - nice knowing you' constructive criticism ? seriously what was that for ?
You don't seriously believe this is constructive or helpful ? If you had wanted to be helpful you could have just pointed it out. As you also seem to know it was not put there by PRJ then this just makes it worse.
It just makes you come across as an arrogant ****head. I think Dale Carnegie may be able to help !

How is that for constructive criticism

[Phil Payne]

You don't seriously believe this is constructive or helpful ?

Why is it not helpful? I'd have charged a commercial customer £500 for that.

And the only thing I care about is that it's effective.

[driftin jo]

Why is it not helpful? I'd have charged a commercial customer £500 for that.

And the only thing I care about is that it's effective.

You charged someone £500 for saying 'Bye, bye - nice knowing you', wow ! I'm in the wrong job.

[Ross]

I think Phil's post came across the wrong way guys... I read it and my first thought was 'what a :corey:'. Especially after the first helpful post it looked liked he'd looked a bit further at the sign, and was effectively jumping to a rather silly conclusion that it was intentional and accusing prj of hiding a link.

I think most people would have read it this way, but clearly that's not the way the post was intended - it's easy done to type something with one meaning that gets interpreted differently when read by anyone else... so nothing to get excited about... lets all be friends again

[Phil Payne]

.. jumping to a rather silly conclusion that it was intentional ...

Where did I say or imply that it was intentional? I can promise you I came to no such 'conclusion' - my assumption was mere incompetence, not malfeasance.

It's a good idea - in future - to read whatt I actually write and not what you think I've written.

[javispa]

The web is a good idea and, by the way, the sofa seems original to me. And it could be related with your saying, something like "don't stop (to lye on the sofa) or you will stop being good". It could be your signature, just put PRJ on top of the sofa or something like that, jeje.
Cheers.

[Thuppu]

It's a good idea - in future - to read whatt I actually write and not what you think I've written.

Well, this is a problem on these internet forums if the wrighter presume all understand him and writes a bit obscure, especially on a forum like this where are a lot of people who havn't the best english aptitude(like my self). Using smilies can help others to get the idea because we can't see your facial expressions and so on...

[prj]

Where did I say or imply that it was intentional? I can promise you I came to no such 'conclusion' - my assumption was mere incompetence, not malfeasance.

It's a good idea - in future - to read whatt I actually write and not what you think I've written.

Actually, you were rude for no reason.
You assumed, yes you did, that I put the link there myself on purpose.

How can "bye bye, nice knowing you" be interpreted in ANY other way, other than an insult?
If you were half as smart as you make yourself out to be, you would have realized, that I was using a free theme, and that free theme authors sometimes put backlinks to their sites in the free themes, to increase their pagerank.

I did weed out two other such links, but I overlooked this one. Yeah, **** happens.
If you wanted to be helpful, you would say "there is a hidden link on your page, in case you did not know", and that would be enough.

So yeah, keep your comments to yourself if all you are looking for is to insult others, because you come over as a complete :corey: and I am not the only one who thinks so.

[Sonic]

Where did I say or imply that it was intentional? I can promise you I came to no such 'conclusion' - my assumption was mere incompetence, not malfeasance.

It's a good idea - in future - to read whatt I actually write and not what you think I've written.

Keep posting, please... hopefully this thread will soon be up there along with your other top 4 whenever anybody googles your name!

I think its clear you were trying to be helpful, but you don't half have an abrasive way of doing so!

[Rusty]

I think this has gone off topic a little

Can clean it up a little if needs be...

[prj]

It's not too bad.

Let's get back to the Sofa

I really need to knock up some sort of banner.

[Rusty]

Let's get back to the Sofa

I'm not that sort of bloke...

[Phil Payne]

Keep posting, please... hopefully this thread will soon be up there along with your other top 4 whenever anybody googles your name!

I doubt it - the newer search engine algorithms seem to age forum posts quite quickly. A post I made on Usenet (remember that?) was #8 or so for many years but now seems to have disappeared completely.

I think its clear you were trying to be helpful, but you don't half have an abrasive way of doing so!

It works. I don't have the time to write War and Peace each time. If anyone wants to do any gardening or threadmangling, go ahead.