Any opinions on A4 3.0d quattro avant

**anton** · 3 August 2013, 18:22

I assume your referring to the b8 (not sure if there was a 3.0d before that, but I used to have an A5 with that engine and quattro and it was a stupid diesel, I'd go as far as to say it will give you more of a kick than the S2 (stock at least) but don't believe the mpg figures. I got 35 average and 42 on a long run. As far as handling, your comparing a 15 year old car to a modern one with advanced multi link suspension all round. My A5 could run rings round my old quattro in the turns, and then leave it behind on the straights. I don't see why the A4 avant would be any different. Only problem is it feels numb, but then I didn't think much of the coupe feedback either but the old is definitely more fun.

HTH
Ant

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**anton** · 3 August 2013, 18:24

One thing to add, if your going manual, read up on the gearboxes. They don't make a manual any more and there's a reason for that, one of the main reasons I sold mine....

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**Quattro Dan.** · 3 August 2013, 20:05

Originally posted by anton

One thing to add, if your going manual, read up on the gearboxes. They don't make a manual any more and there's a reason for that, one of the main reasons I sold mine....

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I had a B7 2007 3.0 tdi Quattro avant s line manual, great cars, fantastic handling, and good performance. Good luck finding a manual one they are very rare.

**Sleeper_Avant** · 3 August 2013, 20:08

B6/7 early 3.0`s were plagued with issues, as per any new modern diesel.

awesome though, go to some dealers and drive some cars man!!!

my STD AAN engine`d A4 was not as quick as when i had the 2.5 diesel in it belive it or not, although it did the same 14.4 1/4 mile time suprisingly lol

**prj** · 3 August 2013, 20:34

1. Chain tensioners - the uppers usually need to be replaced, if not replaced in time, it will break and pistons will hit the valves.
2. Injectors - need to be diagnosed and running values checked prior to purchase of the car or you are potentially looking at 2000 GBP expenses.
3. Injectors #2 - the returns need to be checked. They can leak, the gaskets can also leak and result is diesel in oil. When inspecting car make sure oil level is not too high.
4. DPF - many of these cars have issues with DPF. Small trips and common regeneration of DPF also caused diesel in oil. It is best to remove the DPF altogether.
5. Intake manifold swirl flaps. If they are shot, usually the suggestion is to replace the manifolds at over 1000 GBP. The easier solution is to remove the swirl flaps, plug the holes and code them out of the ECU.
6. Gearbox - In case of auto need to make sure that it is not slipping. If it is slipping somewhat randomly, a full "dynamic" oil change (with a special machine) + software update for TCU will cure this.

I can go on and on about this. I remap, DPF off, EGR off and remove swirl flaps on these almost daily now.

When it's working you get 600nm of torque and over 290hp from them, and they are great to drive.
The fuel consumption is very low - the newer 233 bhp engines consume around 6.5L/100km on motorway.

**DJones** · 3 August 2013, 21:08

Fuel consumption on the latest model is incredible, I run the 3.0 biturbo A6 and it does 44 mpg on the run pretty good for a 300+ bhp motor.

I have had about five now from the 233bhp model to the latest and all have been great motors..

**Sleeper_Avant** · 3 August 2013, 21:38

Originally posted by prj

1. Chain tensioners - the uppers usually need to be replaced, if not replaced in time, it will break and pistons will hit the valves.
2. Injectors - need to be diagnosed and running values checked prior to purchase of the car or you are potentially looking at 2000 GBP expenses.
3. Injectors #2 - the returns need to be checked. They can leak, the gaskets can also leak and result is diesel in oil. When inspecting car make sure oil level is not too high.
4. DPF - many of these cars have issues with DPF. Small trips and common regeneration of DPF also caused diesel in oil. It is best to remove the DPF altogether.
5. Intake manifold swirl flaps. If they are shot, usually the suggestion is to replace the manifolds at over 1000 GBP. The easier solution is to remove the swirl flaps, plug the holes and code them out of the ECU.
6. Gearbox - In case of auto need to make sure that it is not slipping. If it is slipping somewhat randomly, a full "dynamic" oil change (with a special machine) + software update for TCU will cure this.

I can go on and on about this. I remap, DPF off, EGR off and remove swirl flaps on these almost daily now.

When it's working you get 600nm of torque and over 290hp from them, and they are great to drive.
The fuel consumption is very low - the newer 233 bhp engines consume around 6.5L/100km on motorway.

100% agreed!

remove all the **** it doesnt need and map it out,

very widespread procedure on ALL models of modern diesel cars nowdays.

**DarrenM** · 4 August 2013, 08:45

Sorry to hijack but what are opinions on the b6 A4 3.0 petrol (manual)?

I'm still not 100% sure the A4 Avant will be big enough for what I need anyway (BIG dog so maybe c5 A6/S6 Avant more suitable) but heard a 3.0L petrol burble past the other day and sounded sweet.

Something like these as examples:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2309869466...84.m1438.l2649

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2712377530...84.m1438.l2649

Not to fussed about tuneability as literally just be used as a 3rd car to transport the dog.

**Tonybolony** · 4 August 2013, 09:18

Thanks for all your replies.
I was tempted to go for an earlier (2003 ish), as there are a few available- Autotrader/Pistonheads, but reading your replies, maybe I need to throw a bit more money at this, 2007 onwards.

????

**Error404** · 4 August 2013, 10:24

Our B6 S4 avant is great, but if its for practical family duties I'd get an A6 - there ain't much leg room in the back of the A4 and the boot isn't as big as you'd think - the tailgate is pretty sloped compared to a B4. Can't fault the handling and comfort - both leagues ahead of a B4 car. Bit devoid of character but all modern cars are IMHO - they are all too good.
As soon as they come down in price a bit I think we will be in the market for a 3.0tdi A6q - 600nm & 40+mpg can't be beaten for a daily with room for a large dog!

**DarrenM** · 4 August 2013, 10:52

Originally posted by Error404

Our B6 S4 avant is great, but if its for practical family duties I'd get an A6 - there ain't much leg room in the back of the A4 and the boot isn't as big as you'd think - the tailgate is pretty sloped compared to a B4. Can't fault the handling and comfort - both leagues ahead of a B4 car. Bit devoid of character but all modern cars are IMHO - they are all too good.
As soon as they come down in price a bit I think we will be in the market for a 3.0tdi A6q - 600nm & 40+mpg can't be beaten for a daily with room for a large dog!

Good stuff, I didn't know you had a B6 avant..haven't really been on the forum for a while tho.

Would love to see a few pics..

As much as I'd like A4's, I think you're probably right about the space. In the back of my mind, I think the A6's are a bit to "grown up", big & sensible but I'm trying to kid myself really..as that's exactly what I need..lol

We did try our dog in an A4 avant few months ago (it was a friendly guy's at local car wash I was walking him past!) he seemed a bit squashed then TBH and he's filled out loads since then.

I think I'm going to have to put my sensible cap on and go for an A6 (maybe S6)...thoughts on best buy for up to around 6K..??

**andy10v** · 4 August 2013, 20:07

A4s are 2 person cars with the ability to carry passengers. Great for giving mates lifts etc. **** for long journeys.

**Tonybolony** · 4 August 2013, 20:57

Originally posted by andy10v

A4s are 2 person cars with the ability to carry passengers. Great for giving mates lifts etc. **** for long journeys.

TBH, that's exactly what I'm after.
90% On my own
8% With the Mrs (Generally telling me that I'm going too fast, especially thro the bends!!)
2% Other people in the back.

Given that the 3.0Tdi Quattro Avant are fairly rare & consequently more expensive, anyone got any views on Just how disappointed I would be with a Chipped 2.0Tdi?
Plenty of 2.0 170's out there, the 3.0 being 50% up on Cc's, but not 50% up on Horses/Torque, and also that the Block is gonna weigh considerably more- will the 3.0 turn-in as well as the 2.0??
Obviously there are higher maintenance costs/tax/fuel.
It's never gonna be used on a track, but something to have some fun in, and practical as a Daily.

I'm interested in anyone's opinion before I go and buy something that I may regret.

**Cottis** · 4 August 2013, 21:02

Jeez, surely you need a dumper truck for the dog Darren ha ha. Looks like a cross between content and confused.

Any opinions on A4 3.0d quattro avant

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