5cly engine into 4cly b4

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  • Skull
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Mar 2004
    • 3506
    • Country: Slovenia

    #1

    5cly engine into 4cly b4

    I had enought of my 2.0 16v engine, and have a chance of getting a 2.0 20v (NM) engine.

    Any BTDT of that kind of swap? Engine mounts, subframe, treverse, radiator brackets...

    My battery is now located behind the front left headlight btw, i will have to cut the battery plate away for sure.
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  • Jas11n
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Jan 2004
    • 5067
    • Country: England

    #2
    You'll need to find and locate the chassis brackets and weld them in for the engine mounts to bolt to.
    2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
    2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
    1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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    • A80Avant
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Sep 2005
      • 10873
      • Country: Greece

      #3
      why bother with the NM engine and not get an ABY for 1500euro the most?
      it seems that you can gather all parts for less than 3000euro(gearbox,electrical,intercoolers etc) and with around 5000euro have a decent S2 sedan!You can even get all parts from Tots in switzerland.In and out situation! Everything you need!
      With an extra 1500euro you get the RS2 interior as well,and another 1000euro the bumpers!

      a nice RS2 sedan with around 7500euro!

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      • Skull
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Mar 2004
        • 3506
        • Country: Slovenia

        #4
        Sure? My engine already stands on welded chassis brackets, not on the subframe...
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        • Skull
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Mar 2004
          • 3506
          • Country: Slovenia

          #5
          Originally posted by PapVas
          why bother with the NM engine and not get an ABY for 1500euro the most?
          it seems that you can gather all parts for less than 3000euro(gearbox,electrical,intercoolers etc) and with around 5000euro have a decent S2 sedan!You can even get all parts from Tots in switzerland.In and out situation! Everything you need!
          With an extra 1500euro you get the RS2 interior as well,and another 1000euro the bumpers!

          a nice RS2 sedan with around 7500euro!
          i have an easy answer to that. I am still a student
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          • A80Avant
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Sep 2005
            • 10873
            • Country: Greece

            #6
            rs2 engine also stands on brackets,not on subframe
            well since you are a student,then i would suggest to wait a while until the right opportuniy arrives.any other solution will prove to be a waste of money.The 4cyl the competition has is a very nice engine.Any other best option is a turbo 5cyl.

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            • Skull
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Mar 2004
              • 3506
              • Country: Slovenia

              #7
              well no, it is not a nice engine. it has the semi mechanical injection system that sux. bad bad ****. with the 2.0 20v engine i am also in the same tax level, and i will also drop the fuel consumption by a couple of liters.
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              • mcandmar
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Apr 2004
                • 5118
                • Country: Ireland

                #8
                If the NM's cheap i'd go for it, once you convert to 5cyl it will make future projects much easier. ..and the NM cams might come in handy
                91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                • GazzaG60
                  S2Forum Freak
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4133
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  why go 5 pot?

                  there is bnothing wrong with the 4 pot. its lighter and sits farer back for a start.

                  a turbo on the 6a is a rocket in the making. if youy want more power get a twin exhaust cam swap. they are rare but work a treat. you need 2 KR/9a/6a/pl cams (EX) i have a finished set with toothed wheel you can offer me for if you like.

                  stick a 57trim t04e on that and you got an s2 killer. ignore the "no traction" comments. plenty in the states done it to prove the worth.

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                  • Skull
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 3506
                    • Country: Slovenia

                    #10
                    What i want to achieve is to get rid of the mechanical injection. That is the point. An ABF engine would be ok too, but if there is too much work in installing a 5 pot, i would rather go for a NM.
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                    • GazzaG60
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 4133
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      nothing wrong with the 6a. the abf got a longer stroke so a tad smoother. the main advantages of the ABF and where it gets most of its smoothness freom is the EFI.

                      go megasquirt or get a digi 1 loom and ECu from a G60. talk to bilal or danny at SNS for a chip. go for a bigger injector map so the squirters are not coded to go static.

                      a twin ex cam efi setup on a 6a is good for 170hp or so.

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                      • re2500
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • May 2007
                        • 2185
                        • Country: Wales

                        #12
                        I got a 6a running 170bhp in my golf mk2.

                        Goes like sh*t off a shovel!

                        Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
                        03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
                        01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

                        "Difficult is worth doing"

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                        • Skull
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 3506
                          • Country: Slovenia

                          #13
                          oh yes, i forgot to mention that i dont need more power, as it is a daily, need lower consumption
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                          • GazzaG60
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 4133
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            dont go 5 then. more pots more juice.

                            you need a 1.3 l polo mate if you need to save cash.

                            any engine swap will cost you an arm. regardless of what you have.

                            the cheapest ive ever done one for is around 500 quid. i bought a written off scirocco storm and transfered engine, box and interior into my scala. by far the cheapest rout is a full donor car.

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                            • Skull
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 3506
                              • Country: Slovenia

                              #15
                              more pots more juice is not true. just look at the bmw engines. also, the 2.8 v6 audi engine has a lower consumption than my 2.0 16v.

                              I just need info, if the engine brackets are the same and on the same place, and if there is some other difference that is worth mentioning. Battery in the boot, that for sure. the engine is now in a coupe quattro year 90 btw.
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