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  • 20Vcqdriver
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jun 2007
    • 829
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Have the CGR 6 speed but with the wheel tyre combo of the series 2 57mph is the max. Still better than the 52mph that was possible with the standard Cq gearbox. 30-70 in 3rd last year with my mild 250bhp upgrade and small boost leak was 6.1secs.
    Hopefully Paul's new chip and new hoses + charge cooler will improve things when it comes back on the road 1st May.
    1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
    2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
    2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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    • HPmuirt
      S2Forum April Fool
      • Apr 2005
      • 3014
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

      #17
      Anyone tried using the VAG-COM acceleration tests to produce these numbers?

      The digital speed reporting is fairly accurate when compared with GPS and certainly much better than the analogue speedo.

      I tried this lunchtime but got an interesting value of 3.6 (+-2.43s) what ever that means See below: -

      AccTest (30-60 in 2nd).jpg

      Cheers n

      Si
      Last edited by HPmuirt; 4 March 2009, 15:25.
      95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
      Subtle mods here and there


      2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
      With every option available (except a towball)

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      • Rusty
        Super Moderator
        • Jun 2004
        • 18953
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        So it could have been 1.2s then
        Cheers'en, AndyC
        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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        • HPmuirt
          S2Forum April Fool
          • Apr 2005
          • 3014
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #19
          Originally posted by Andy_Casey
          So it could have been 1.2s then
          Even better on the return trip (slightly downhill rather than slightly uphill): -

          AccTest (30-60 in 2nd)2.jpg

          Does that mean I could do it in 0.3 secs?

          Cheers n

          Si
          95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
          Subtle mods here and there


          2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
          With every option available (except a towball)

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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            0.27s
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • EspenW
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Apr 2007
              • 1534
              • Country: Norway

              #21
              Originally posted by 20Vcqdriver
              Have the CGR 6 speed but with the wheel tyre combo of the series 2 57mph is the max. .
              Peculiar. What size tires and what is the rev limiter at?
              1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
              1994 80E Avant
              1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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              • EspenW
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Apr 2007
                • 1534
                • Country: Norway

                #22
                The B5 S4 boys use VAGCOM to log the so called FATS times.
                4200-6500rpm in 3rd gear:

                That translates to roughly 60-90mph

                I think 60-90mph in 3rd is the best performance indicator. Would be interesting if some of ya'll good folks had some 60-90mph times to share.
                1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
                1994 80E Avant
                1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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                • HPmuirt
                  S2Forum April Fool
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 3014
                  • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                  #23
                  So no one knows what the numbers mean in VAG-COM then?

                  Cheers n

                  Si
                  95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
                  Subtle mods here and there


                  2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
                  With every option available (except a towball)

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                  • DJones
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2020
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    This is an interesting graph to study, the red line is my standard B5 RS4 and the black is my 450bhp ur quattro.

                    Cant believe the difference in the 0-100 no wonder the ur sh!ts me up.....
                    Attached Files

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                    • Rusty
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 18953
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Originally posted by DJones
                      This is an interesting graph to study, the red line is my standard B5 RS4 and the black is my 450bhp ur quattro.

                      Cant believe the difference in the 0-100 no wonder the ur sh!ts me up.....
                      The beauty of power to weight combined with short gearing.

                      30-60 looks like 2.5s in 1st then 2nd, can you do a 30-60 in 2nd?

                      You've got rollout on there too, no use for road testing, you can see there is about a 0.5s error. Rollout is for drag racing...

                      The B5 RS4 looks like 0-100 in 14s, my S2 is just over 13, what's up there?
                      Cheers'en, AndyC
                      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                      • HPmuirt
                        S2Forum April Fool
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 3014
                        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                        #26
                        Come on all you VAG-COM experts out there. Someone must know what the acceleration numbers mean.

                        For the 60-90MPH 3rd test, VAG-COM reports 6.2 +- 2.44s so if we ignore what the +- means then 6.2 id faily good compared with the sub 300BHP S4's in the MRC table

                        Cheers n

                        Si
                        95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
                        Subtle mods here and there


                        2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
                        With every option available (except a towball)

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                        • Rusty
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 18953
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Through 3500rpm to 7000rpm in 3rd is pretty real world although the speeds aren't. Second or third gear give the most realistic representation of performance for road driving.
                          Cheers'en, AndyC
                          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                          • Rusty
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 18953
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Originally posted by HPmuirt
                            Come on all you VAG-COM experts out there. Someone must know what the acceleration numbers mean.

                            For the 60-90MPH 3rd test, VAG-COM reports 6.2 +- 2.44s so if we ignore what the +- means then 6.2 id faily good compared with the sub 300BHP S4's in the MRC table

                            Cheers n

                            Si
                            IIRC yours is in the 270 to 280bhp region with strong torque? Not sure what mine is, will have to do a run and check...
                            Cheers'en, AndyC
                            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                            • GazzaG60
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 4133
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              well i have ordered a gtech pro RR. i never seem to be able to make time to visit a rolling road so thought id get one.

                              any tips for setup etc for when it arrives.

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                              • Rusty
                                Super Moderator
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 18953
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                Read the instructions? Not got one myself but make sure you understand all the assumptions that they make.
                                Cheers'en, AndyC
                                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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