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  • 20Vcqdriver
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jun 2007
    • 829
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Do You own a UK photo type driving licence

    For those of us in the UK, better read this. Fortunately mine does not run out until 2013.

    Very Important for UK drivers.


    Please pass on to all friends/colleagues

    Unwitting motorists face upt a £1,000 fine as thousands of photo card driving licences expire.

    Thousands of motorists are at risk of being fined up to £1,000 because they are unwittingly driving without a valid licence.


    They risk prosecution after failing to spot the extremely small print on their photo card licence which says it automatically expires after 10 years and has to be renewed - even though drivers are 'licensed' to drive until the age of 70.

    The fiasco has come to light a decade after the first batch of photo licences was issued in July 1998, just as they start to expire.

    Motoring organisations blamed the Government for the fiasco and said 'most' drivers believed their licences were for life..

    A mock-up driving licence from 1998 when the photo cards were launched shows the imminent expiry date as item '4b'

    They said officials had failed to publicise sufficiently the fact that new-style licences - unlike the old paper ones - expire after a set peri od and have to be renewed..

    To rub salt into wounds, drivers will have to a pay £17.50 to renew their card - a charge which critics have condemned as a 'stealth tax' and which will earn the Treasury an estimated £437million over 25 years.

    Official DVLA figures reveal that while 16,136 expired this summer, so far only 11,566 drivers have renewed, leaving 4,570 outstanding.
    With another 300,000 photo card licences due to expire over the coming year, experts fear the number of invalid licences will soar, putting thousands more drivers in breach of the law and at risk of a fine.

    At the heart of the confusion is the small print on the tiny
    credit-card-size photo licence, which is used in conjunction with the paper version.


    Just below the driver name on the front of the photo card licence is a series of dates and details - each one numbered.

    Number 4b features a date in tiny writing, but no explicit
    explanation as to what it means.

    The date's significance is only explained if the driver turns over the card and reads the key on the back, which states that ‘4b’, means 'licence valid to'.

    Even more confusingly, an adjacent table on the rear of the card sets out how long the driver is registered to hold a licence - that is until his or her 70th birthday.

    A total of 25million new-style licences have been issued but - motoring experts say - drivers were never sufficiently warned they would expire af ter 10 years.

    Motorists who fail to renew their licences in time are allowed to continue driving. But the DVLA says they could be charged with 'failing to surrender their licence', an offence carrying a £1,000 fine.

    AA president, Edmund King said: 'It is not generally known that photo card licences expire: there appears to be a lack of information that people will have to renew these licences.

    'People think they have already paid them for once over and that is it.

    'It will come as a surprise to motorists and a shock that they have to pay an extra £17.50.'

    The AA called on the Government to use the annual £450million from traffic enforcement fines to offset the renewal charge.
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  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #2
    I got caught out with this a couple of years ago... Collecting a van I had rented to move something and the nice lady behind the counter told me that my drivers license expired the previous month. That somewhat complicated my life for a week or two.
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    • Greg_S
      Administrator
      • Jul 2003
      • 12430
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Yeah mine is up for renewal later this year. I've got a feeling they are putting the price up to £35 to change it now though.
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      • mark_s2
        Account Disabled
        • Jul 2006
        • 274
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

        #4
        What about the old sytle paper license - are these still valid?

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        • Sonic
          Administrator
          • Jul 2006
          • 5514
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #5
          I have to renew mine every 3 years (diabetic) - doesnt cost me though.
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          • DarrenM
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Aug 2007
            • 1227
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Originally posted by mark_s2
            What about the old sytle paper license - are these still valid?

            Im still using one, its it tatters but cant be frigged to change it as give anough £££ to Government already. I got caught for no seat belt last year and the copper got funny with me as it wasnt a photo license...I asked him if it was still legal & valid and his reply was "yes". Felt like telling him to STFU then!!

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            • Flat on my back
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jan 2007
              • 2449
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
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              I have to renew mine every 12 months (alcoholic...hic) - cost's me loads...

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              • Sonic
                Administrator
                • Jul 2006
                • 5514
                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                #8
                None taken
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                • CoupeWannabeS2
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                  • Nov 2004
                  • 403
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Quick update on this - my licence is due for renewal in Feb, but the kind chaps at the DVLA have written to me including the right form to use.

                  I have also heard of stories in the motorcycling press where people's bike entitlement has mysteriously disappeared when their new licence comes back. When questioned, the DVLA told people to prove it, or retake their bike test.

                  Therefore a good idea to photocopy what you send back to the DVLA.

                  Also it now costs the bargain price of £20 to renew your licence !

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                  • Ducky
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • May 2006
                    • 636
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Mmm, I still have the forms from Feb last year....I guess I should do it then!

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                    • Acidburn
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 13459
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      I guess i'll have to find my drivers licence out, only time I worry about it is when i'm having points put on it.

                      Hopefully it will be clean by this time next year I collect more than most football teams.

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                      • K Simmonds
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                        • Dec 2007
                        • 7627
                        • Country: Wales

                        #12
                        Just had to do this, why oh why do the photo's make one look so bad. My last one made me look like some sort of kiddie fiddler from the deep south, my new one makes me look like an eastern European criminal type. Only consolation is my new one has no points on it, though I'm in the process of contesting a minor speeding offence.
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                        • Acidburn
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                          • Jun 2007
                          • 13459
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Originally posted by K Simmonds
                          my new one makes me look like an eastern European criminal type.
                          doubt you're get stopped anytime soon then

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                          • K Simmonds
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 7627
                            • Country: Wales

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Acidburn
                            doubt you're get stopped anytime soon then
                            Good point, perhaps I should brush up on my Ukrainian dialect.
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                            1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                            1994 MTM RS2.
                            1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                            2000 B5 TQS.

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                            • Lovinit
                              S2Forum Fanatic
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 70
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              This is a bit annoying! To be fair the DVLA sent me a reminder.. Which did two things, 1) I can't believe i'd had my licence 10 years
                              2) that I gotta pay £17.50 for something I already have and being blessed with great looks (yea right) update a photo that I pretty much look same in ( still waiting for puberty to kick in!)

                              It's too cheeky, coz there's nowt you can do about it! Or is there???

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