Still no ignition. I have tried........

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  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    not ABY related I know, but I had an issue with speed sensor and crank position sensor fault codes being thrown up with both sensors functioning correctly, turned out the hall sensor was slightly out - does the ECU use the hallsensor as the "benchmark" and compare the crank position sensor and speed sensors signals to it?
    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
    Indigo ABY coupé
    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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    • DNA-S2
      S2Forum Addict
      • Sep 2012
      • 369
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32
      non start

      Originally posted by AudiCoupeParts
      Many thanks to all who replied with their thoughts and ideas of my no ignition problem. The ABY Coupe conversion is alive!!!


      A very special thanks goes "The Great One" , "The S2 Jedi Master", Sir Paul Nuggent. aka S2central.net He needs to be Knighted by the Queen for his great deed in solving my problem. Somebody over there start a petition to get him Knighted!



      His superior knowledge of the S2 wiring diagrams was the defining break in the case of the no start problem of my Aby converted US spec Coupe Quattro. I owe him many a pints at the local Pub when i hopefully come to the UK and visit

      The problem was the immobiliser was not working. The theft system immobiliser info is a high security item Iam not at liberty to discuss the problem since I promised Paul.

      Paul explain what can be discussed about my problem for the members what he sees fit..


      Again many thanks to Paul and the others.


      Best regards and safe drive

      joe marconi
      www.audicoupequattro.com
      well i have same problem
      after rebuild - non start
      - no spark
      - no injectors switching
      - and no fuel coming or relay working on ignition
      downside its got clifford aftermarket alarm and imobiliser

      i could do with that pdf file from s2 central
      anyone can help?
      Danny
      www.dnaautocare.co.uk

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      • ManiacuV6
        S2Forum Addict
        • Dec 2009
        • 458
        • Country: Romania

        #33
        Is very likely to have an issue with the aftermarket immobiliser. DO you have any trouble codes stored in ECU ?
        Audi S4 2.2T 5 spd 1992 for parts
        AUDI A4 1.9TDI daily use

        Audi 80 Quattro 2.0 16V (ACE) aka Competition

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        • DNA-S2
          S2Forum Addict
          • Sep 2012
          • 369
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          No codes at all
          It's definitely immobiliser
          Fuel pump relay not comming in
          Danny
          www.dnaautocare.co.uk

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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #35
            Did this get fixed ???
            Paul Nugent
            Webmaster http://S2central.net
            Administrator http://S2forum.com

            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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            • DNA-S2
              S2Forum Addict
              • Sep 2012
              • 369
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #36
              All sorted Paul ... Thanks
              Good to have you back!!
              Haven't met you but have missed you mate
              Danny
              www.dnaautocare.co.uk

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              • DNA-S2
                S2Forum Addict
                • Sep 2012
                • 369
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #37
                All sorted Paul ... Thanks
                Good to have you back!
                Haven't even met you but have missed you pal ��
                Danny
                www.dnaautocare.co.uk

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                • S2central.net
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 16590
                  • Country: Northern Ireland

                  #38
                  Was it an Immo related wiring issue then ?
                  Paul Nugent
                  Webmaster http://S2central.net
                  Administrator http://S2forum.com

                  1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                  2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                  2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                  Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                  There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                  • DNA-S2
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 369
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #39
                    Yep


                    Danny
                    DNA Autocare Ltd
                    Danny
                    www.dnaautocare.co.uk

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                    • owdlvr
                      S2Forum Tinkerer
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 5
                      • Country: Canada

                      #40
                      Thread bump. I'm having the exact same problem as the original poster. Car cranks, has spark, has fuel pump and fuel pressure. Injectors have power but do not get a signal to fire while cranking. US-Spec Coupe chassis, 1993 UrS4 AAN, ABY harness. The diagnostics check does fire each of the five injectors under the test, so things are connected correctly. Based on this thread I would really like to explore the potential for an immo issue causing my no start.

                      I've messaged Paul privately, but would anyone else be able to send me the PDF on fixing the issue with the Immobilizer? I'm happy to provide proof of vehicle ownership and project status via PM if needed.

                      -Dave

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                      • UrS4boy
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11859
                        • Country: Canada

                        #41
                        Potential solutions to why your AAN-powered UrS isn't starting

                        Not sure about the source of your AAN ECU but if it was a 551AA from a NAmerican UrS4/S6 there is no immobilizer.

                        Have a read on this:

                        Potential solutions to why your AAN-powered UrS isn't starting:
                        The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


                        Good luck

                        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                        • owdlvr
                          S2Forum Tinkerer
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 5
                          • Country: Canada

                          #42
                          North American UrS4 AAN, will have to check the part number. Went through that entire post the other night. Everything checks out as okay, but the injectors do not get a signal to fire while cranking.

                          We have spark, it kicks over on starter fluid. This tells me Crank and Cam sensor are okay.
                          We have fuel to the fuel rail (fuel pump runs, lines hooked up correctly, with feed line removed we get over 100ml in 2 or 3 sec of cranking) (this tells me RPM sensor is okay)

                          ECU does not tell the injectors to open up and allow fuel into the chamber. Cannot find the cause?

                          -D

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                          • UrS4boy
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 11859
                            • Country: Canada

                            #43
                            Is there someone with a different AAN ECU that you can try? Your's might be FUBAR'd.

                            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                            • owdlvr
                              S2Forum Tinkerer
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5
                              • Country: Canada

                              #44
                              Would be highly unlikely though, considering I drove the UrS4 donor car from Edmonton to Squamish before pulling it for the swap.

                              You're close enough to Squamish, got any spare ECUs?

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