I know why RS2 prices are coming down!

[Puglife]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1463870.htm

stretch your budget slightly and even that seems tempting..... granted buying a car from essex is brave but from a guy in essex called Levi Foyle seems ambitious

[Jon441cc]

An RS2 is just an 80 with knobs on though!

Dont forget the Badge Dest


The B5 RS4 is one of the best looking estates audi have made in my opinion just a pity it isnt powered by an inline 5.

[richardk]

same as the e30m3 --> e36m3 at the bmw scene.. e30's m3 a way up now, e36 went down and going up now..

so don't worry

[Gazjen]

Its got to be the only 'affordable' collectors car that audi have made.

Sorry did you forget one?

[bad8008]

The RS2 is so much different.
Limited production numbers especially RHD.
2 here in Brunei.

How many production is the RS4?

[smiler]

How can you compare a RS2 with a RS4?

RS2 on my free time and a RS4 to work

[Key Walshe]

I thought RS2's had gone up in value... not down!!

Over three years ago, when I bought my S2 Avant with from new Nothelle N300 spec, I was originally after an RS2, but couldn't justify the extra £4,000 (smidge under £7k compared to upto £11k for an RS2 rhd with 100,000miles) for what on paper and in tests were very similar performing cars. In the long run, I always knew the RS2 would hold it's value better, but I liked the Nothelle's value for money, looks (never liked the rear light panel on the RS2) along with it's own very unique identity with it's state of tune, and they don't seem to be hit too badly with depreciation, even if standard S2 Avant's have plummeted lately!!

For a tidy RS2 today, surely you're paying over £12,000 (bar the one on PH for sun £10k - though higher milage than others), and as pointed out above, what's the difference in units produced between a rhd B5 RS4 and a rhd B4 RS2? It's widely regarded that the RS2 is something of a collectors car, whilst the B5 RS4, beatiful as they are, aren't quite appreciated the same, and with the B7 RS4 that only hurt the B5 even more, there'll never be another Audi called an RS2 (unless they do the unthinkable, and tune up the A2... yuck!!)

[anthonys2]

my opinion is the rs2 is a legendary car built by audi and porsche and with not many left can only hold and go up in value and they are still special, the rs4 is obviously more modern and has a few more toys but heres the question which one is a proper drivers car?? ha ha

[TDHAA]

I think ultimately RS2s will end up going up in value where as everything else Audi will go down.

Its got to be the only 'affordable' collectors car that audi have made.

Any "real" RS2 has a specific audi/porsche VIN.
Up here in Holland there are some 'fake' RS2's on stock audi 80 avant VIN.
The people with knowledge won't buy them.

So in a while i think the market wil overflow with "fake" rebuilded RS4's.
No specific VIN there!



The RS2 wil be always be special,it saved porsche from drowning!
(í'm saving money to get my own RS2 soon,open for donations )

[TDHAA]

The RS2 is so much different.
Limited production numbers especially RHD.
2 here in Brunei.

How many production is the RS4?

RS4 6030
RS2 2891

total numbers,dont know the rhd numbers.

[Key Walshe]

According to Wikipedia there was only 180 rhd RS2's made in total, for the UK & South African makets.

Whilst THIS thread shows the numbers for S2's sold here in the UK (782 3B & ABY Coupes, 320 Avants) and how many in total were built (2 conflicting figures at the time this thread was wrote) - not sure how many rhd models there were in total though Worldwide. Anybody know how many are still registered on UK roads?

[bad8008]

Ok, here's the Deal.
Since the RS2 is a collector's item, would it be a better idea to pimp it up say, increase BHP, change here and there....etc..
or would it be best to maintain to its original kind.

[DJones]

The RS2 is with out question a great car and is without question a collectors car. "as said you cant compare them". The B5 RS4 is also a great car and now pretty much only purchased by those in the know, many of which are selling there B7's to return to B5 ownership, as apart from the dynamics (which can be overcome) the B5 is a better drivers car.

As to what they are, you wont fool someone in the know with chassis numbers, there is so much that is different to a normal B5 S4, discrete yes but different.

If you purchased the parts to convert an S4 in to an identical rep of a RS4 you could afford an original car in the first place.

The inner wing has a plate that includes the chassis number and a stamp identifying it as a "quattro GMBH" car (as they were built by a subsidiary of Audi) possible to copy i guess but it wouldn't take long with some research to undo.

I have had 2 B5 RS4's one from nearly new (noggy) as a company car and it had 36k of warranty work carried out in 1 year. With all of that a side i still loved it and new i would one day have another.

I now have an Avus with 68k on the clock it runs 430bhp and is a truly great car to drive 60 in 4.3 and 100 in a little over 10. If you drive one you will want one.

I personally think the RS4 will (in time also be collectible) as it has such a strong following, that generally just doesn't stop.

In summary they are both very very good cars with very different characteristics, you cant compare them i personally love them both. (starting to sound like i'm referring to my kids)

Darren.

[dest]

IIRC, there were not many B5 RS4's sold in the UK, Im sure its literally only a few hundred

[rob martin]

and before everyone gets excited about 10-15 grand b5 rs4's, go and have a look at a few of them. before i bought my rs2, i fancied a rs4. i even looked at some cars over 20 grand and were shocking! you can't generalise a models value because you have seen a cheap one for sale. good, genuine cars will always be worth more than abused tatty ones. if 15 grand is all you can afford, buy a 15 grand rs4 and take the risk.