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  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    Strong generalisation there, Audiman, Sal_S2 and S2 Ant pick up stonking RS4's for that price or less.

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    • DJones
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jun 2005
      • 2020
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32
      Originally posted by Jamo
      Strong generalisation there, Audiman, Sal_S2 and S2 Ant pick up stonking RS4's for that price or less.
      From memory Audiman had to change his turbo's shortly after purchase which adds 4k to purchase price if you cant do it yourself, appreciating Tom can.

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      • EspenW
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Apr 2007
        • 1534
        • Country: Norway

        #33
        RS4 prices will not affect RS2 prices, but B7 RS4 prices will affect B5 RS4 prices.
        I would never even consider a B7 RS4, though.

        I can't believe the current low prices in England. Around here, a decent B5 RS4 is close to £60,000:


        The B7's are still a lot more, this 07 model is £150,000:


        You can get a decent RS2 for under £20K, mint low mile stockish ones will be around £30K
        1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
        1994 80E Avant
        1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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        • DJones
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jun 2005
          • 2020
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          [QUOTE=EspenW;473714]RS4 prices will not affect RS2 prices, but B7 RS4 prices will affect B5 RS4 prices.
          I would never even consider a B7 RS4, though.

          Its this reason why i think in time the B5 will sell for more than a B7. I to would never buy a B7.

          The gap is getting closer already but to me its about the car not the value, when i bought the second RS4 i was going to spend considerably more and get a 355 Ferrari. Drove a few, not for me i'm afraid, drove a couple of B7's quick but boring with no head room for respectable mods.

          The B5 ticked the box's for me discrete, quickish out of the box, a completely different car with even just a stage 1 map.

          If it was about money and value i would invest it elsewhere.
          Last edited by DJones; 28 February 2010, 11:30.

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          • EspenW
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Apr 2007
            • 1534
            • Country: Norway

            #35
            [QUOTE=DJones;473716]
            Originally posted by EspenW
            RS4 prices will not affect RS2 prices, but B7 RS4 prices will affect B5 RS4 prices.
            I would never even consider a B7 RS4, though.

            Its this reason why i think in time the B5 will sell for more than a B7. I to would never buy a B7.

            The gap is getting closer already.
            Yep, I see folks ditch their B7' in favour of B5's.
            They are getting tired of being smoked by people in warmed over B5 S4's probably.
            The 4.2 in the B7 was a mistake, so extremely weird that they put the same engine in the new RS5.
            1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
            1994 80E Avant
            1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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            • TDHAA
              S2Forum Fanatic
              • Feb 2005
              • 62
              • Country: Netherlands

              #36
              I like the RS4 also,but my heart doesnt allow an extra piston.
              Back@audi

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              • DJones
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jun 2005
                • 2020
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #37
                Originally posted by TDHAA
                I like the RS4 also,but my heart doesnt allow an extra piston.
                Lol the 5 does sound better, there we have it the RS2 wins...

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                • AndyP
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 6049
                  • Country: England

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  Strong generalisation there, Audiman, Sal_S2 and S2 Ant pick up stonking RS4's for that price or less.
                  Didn't Sal sell his to go back to an RS2 though?
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                  1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                  1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                  1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                  • DJones
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2020
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #39
                    [QUOTE=EspenW;473720]
                    Originally posted by DJones

                    Yep, I see folks ditch their B7' in favour of B5's.
                    They are getting tired of being smoked by people in warmed over B5 S4's probably.
                    The 4.2 in the B7 was a mistake, so extremely weird that they put the same engine in the new RS5.
                    Just found this a before and after graph of the B5, standard v's generic map (not even custom) everything else is standard, the potential of the B5 is unbelievable.

                    Me being a petrol head, this is what I'm after...
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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #40
                      Originally posted by AndyP
                      Didn't Sal sell his to go back to an RS2 though?
                      No he has both and Sal will tell you the Rs2 feels very slow in comparison to the RS4 as he keeps pointing out to me

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                      • DJones
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 2020
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Jamo
                        No he has both and Sal will tell you the Rs2 feels very slow in comparison to the RS4 as he keeps pointing out to me

                        Lol, My RS4 feels very slow in comparison to my ur!!!! both i5 & the V6 are very good engines...

                        The seat of the pants feel can clearly be seen in this graph, the G force in the ur is much stronger indicating how aggressive it is to drive.
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                        • DarrenM
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 1227
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #42
                          I've been thinking about an Avant for work, the shortlist it comes down to is B4 RS4 and a B5 S4 (both in Red), trouble is, the 4.2 B5 doesnt really excite me AND will continue to drop in money.


                          Originally posted by AquaS2
                          E39 M5 400 brake..... 6K! If that's not tempting i don't know what is
                          a £6K E39 M5 seems cheap but it could be a very expensive purchase . I sold mine several years ago but miss that engine dearly.
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                          • karlblues2
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 402
                            • Home: England Current: Australia

                            #43
                            Originally posted by DJones
                            Lol, My RS4 feels very slow in comparison to my ur!!!! both i5 & the V6 are very good engines...

                            The seat of the pants feel can clearly be seen in this graph, the G force in the ur is much stronger indicating how aggressive it is to drive.

                            Darren those graphs speak volumes!! It takes a lot to overcome the extra weight of the RS4 doesn't it?
                            I am on my second B5 S4 (A black 2002 Avant this time) and love it. However, it is definitely more expensive to maintain than the S2. I know a B5 RS4 will be similar if not more and the turbos are the main (consumable) difference in price.
                            The V6 Bi-Turbo has so may sensors and was the most complex production engine I believe in 1999. (First to have VVT on a turbo!)

                            I'd love an RS4 but with only 30 black and a second tranche of 20 grey delivered to Oz, they have maintained their avlue well above taht of the S4. As for the RS2, there is a black one for sale in NZ that is RHD with only 86000km on it! As a case in point the seller is asking $55000AUD which is similar to what the rare Aus delivered B5 RS4's are going for.
                            Personally I'd keep my Stage 1 B5 S4 avant and try and get the RS2.
                            Cheers
                            Karl

                            PS
                            Here is the link to photos of the RS2 for sale in NZ

                            And here's the ad
                            Last edited by karlblues2; 1 March 2010, 01:47.
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                            • bad8008
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 255
                              • Country: Brunei

                              #44
                              just a thought, will the RS2 ever be entered in the Octane Magazine?
                              2002 A3 8L
                              2005 TT 3.2 Quattro
                              2007 A4 Avant B7 (hers)
                              2009 100 C4
                              2009 A6 Avant (hers)
                              2010 RS2
                              2010 S2 Saloon
                              2011 KTM SuperDuke 990 Olive Green

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                              • GazzaG60
                                S2Forum Freak
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 4133
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #45
                                personally dont think either is worth that money especially an rs2.

                                ive gotta say the E39 i have althought not an m5 (530d msport) is a much better built car than they audi. hard to beat 4x4 for traction though and sure footedness.

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