044 pump fitting problem

[mcandmar]

I'm a little confused about the Banjo connector listed in many threads about 044 pump fitting. (N 903 307 01) Does it fit the fuel line on any car?

The pump in my S2 avant gave up yesterday = interesting journey home being towed by the CQ20v. Sounds great when its pulling two cars!

As i already had it i tried to fit the 044 pump and discovered it needs a non threaded Banjo connector to fit the original fuel line.

I had originally bought the pump and basket to fit into the CQ20v but when i checked the original fuel pump it was the same part number as the S2 avant pump, same basket and everything. Only difference is the length of fuel pipe.

So either i'm missing something here or are we all buying the wrong type of banjo? How did everybody else manage to fit this?

By luck and pure chance i was in a scrap yard on saturday and picked up a complete fuel pump and basket from a V6 Coupe. And guess what its identical too, stuck it into the avant and i'm motoring again

Pic attached, 044 Pump, S2 Avant, CQ20v/V6 pump

[Error404]

Something odd there Mark, as when i fitted the 044 to my CQ20 the OE pump and basket were the same size and fitment as the 044 and the OE banjo fitted straight on too

Looks like someones upgraded / replaced your CQ pump with an S2 pump at some point then?

[Error404]

[rs200]

thy to find basket from audi 200 , 2.2t , mc1,mc2, 3B engine...

and 044 pump will be fitted inside like original.

[mcandmar]

Something odd there Mark, as when i fitted the 044 to my CQ20 the OE pump and basket were the same size and fitment as the 044 and the OE banjo fitted straight on too

Looks like someones upgraded / replaced your CQ pump with an S2 pump at some point then?

The plot unfolds, checked the magic software and there was a change over from L and M chassis. 90/91 i think. Later models had the same pump/basket as an S2. That explains that one.

BUT that means all coupes 3B or ABY would have the later pump with out the screw on fuel line

Guess the list of part numbers are wrong, not often that happens on the S2Forum

[macspring]

Mark,

Good to see it was only the pump and that it is fixed so quick, nice one.

That stuff is here when you want to drop over?

Kind regards.

[s2avant]

The banjo is only used for Coupes. On the Avant you use the RS2 fuel line (8A0 201 351 M).

Ben

[GazzaG60]

aby basket is smallet internal than 3b. rest is same.

you need 3b strainer too.

slit up the inside of the basket. squeeze pump in, 2 cable ties, file edge of mini strainer on top so pump passes.

fit hose. retwist into tank.

job is a good'n

[dmacdou1]

Forgive the noobiness of this question, but what is a banjo?

[Nuvo]

What is a banjo? Why it's a four or five stringed musical instrument of course. Seriously though, have a read here for some info.

[mcandmar]

The banjo is only used for Coupes. On the Avant you use the RS2 fuel line (8A0 201 351 M).

Ben

I never knew the RS2 had a different fuel pump, that does sounds like a better solution. Is the hose a reasonable price from Audi?

I called into a Bosch specialist this morning and got a slip on banjo but its smaller than the threaded one and more restrictive. Also found a load of them on ebay listed for 044 pumps. Think i'll go for the threaded hose and do it properly.

I'm still confused over the coupe fitment, is a 3B the only one with the larger 60mm fuel pump? My version of the software lists the same pump for 3B/ABY/7A etc?

Cheers,

Mark

[mcandmar]

aby basket is smallet internal than 3b. rest is same.

you need 3b strainer too.

slit up the inside of the basket. squeeze pump in, 2 cable ties, file edge of mini strainer on top so pump passes.

fit hose. retwist into tank.

job is a good'n

See pic above, i have the correct basket/strainer for the 044 pump, the only issue is the fuel line connection.

[GazzaG60]

ok sorry.

rather than the banjo can you not get a fitting from a pipe place or something. looks like a different fitting in top of the pump.

i had to disconnect the line like you have there about 6 inch from the aby pump then screw on the union and that was it. are the threads different?

[dmacdou1]

What is a banjo? Why it's a four or five stringed musical instrument of course. Seriously though, have a read here for some info.

Thanks for that, always looking to learn, but for some reason "Duelling spherical pipe fittings" just doesnt have the same ring to it!

[UUUdirs2newcastle]

Well here is one for you.........What do i need if i want to upgrade to a 044 pump before the engine power increase, just to be on the safe side? Does the tank need to come out, or can it be done without removing the fuel tank?

Cheers