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  • Greg_S
    Administrator
    • Jul 2003
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    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Golf GT TDI 170 Recall

    Not sure if anyone else has received from VW, but if they havent got right details I had a recall on mine because of an injector issue which had started to cause some starting issues.

    Now just had it in and they have replaced all injectors.
    Greg

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  • ian4455
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Didn't VW derate the 2.0TDI on the 1st service due to problems with the smaller turbo.

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    • SteveH
      Super Moderator
      • Jul 2003
      • 4460
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      #3
      Perhaps this model has the same injectors as some other VAG 2.0 PD TDI 140/170 engines?

      There's a long thread on the Passat owners site for injector failures. VW wouldn't admit the issue, but a few forum members contacted VOSA after numerous failures at £800 a pop. If you call VW customer services now and tell them you're concerned, they will book the car in at a local VW garage and check the injectors. If they are from the batches that have been identified as being suspect, you'll have them all replaced with the injector loom free of charge. I had mine done a month or two back. The cars that appear to be affected are 05-07 plates with Siemens piezo injectors.
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      • teknobod
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        • Nov 2007
        • 177
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        #4
        I was watching the Passat forum with interest with a view to contacting VW about the issue as we have a 55 plate Passat 2.0 Tdi 140.

        The only thing putting me off was the fact that it has 155k on the clock and thought I may get fobbed off, although mileage shouldn't have any bearing on a 'safety' issue. (The car does have FSH)

        Last week we received a 'Customer Satisfaction Program' communication from them asking us to bring our car in for a free check related to the injector issue, so they must have got our details from the DVLA.

        I'll be over the moon if we get a set of replacement injectors, but I'm not holding my breath.

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        • AndyP
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Feb 2004
          • 6049
          • Country: England

          #5
          Originally posted by SteveH
          Perhaps this model has the same injectors as some other VAG 2.0 PD TDI 140/170 engines?

          There's a long thread on the Passat owners site for injector failures. VW wouldn't admit the issue, but a few forum members contacted VOSA after numerous failures at £800 a pop. If you call VW customer services now and tell them you're concerned, they will book the car in at a local VW garage and check the injectors. If they are from the batches that have been identified as being suspect, you'll have them all replaced with the injector loom free of charge. I had mine done a month or two back. The cars that appear to be affected are 05-07 plates with Siemens piezo injectors.
          Wasn't it Siemans injectors that caused so many problems with Mercedes TDI cars earlier this year? My brother tried to buy a new C class and they told him they couldn't even give hm a delivery date because the line had stopped due to availability of injectors. I seem to remember that Siemans were on revision 7 of the design, and it still didn't work
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          • keepinthedreamalive
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            • Mar 2009
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            #6
            The problem is with the Piezo injectors that short out and cause the engine control unit to shut down.
            The recall involves checking the part number of the injector, if it ends in an 'M' they will change ALL 4 and replace the injector wiring harness in the cylinder head with a modified loom.
            Recall covers ALL 170ps golfs, tourans, passats (and certain 140ps passat), A3, A4,A6, Octavia VRS and Leons. All engines are PD and CR engines are not affected.
            Souldn't matter on mileage or service as it is sasfety related and if you've paid to have injectors replaced in the past, hound customer service for a refund,

            Hope that sheds a bit of light on the issue and good luck and don't be fobbed off

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            • teknobod
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              • Nov 2007
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              #7
              Originally posted by keepinthedreamalive
              The recall involves checking the part number of the injector, if it ends in an 'M' they will change ALL 4 and replace the injector wiring harness in the cylinder head with a modified loom.
              That's useful information!

              Is it possible to check the numbers with the injectors in situ? (Mine's a 2.0tdi passat)

              Cheers

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              • SteveH
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                • Jul 2003
                • 4460
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Originally posted by teknobod
                That's useful information!

                Is it possible to check the numbers with the injectors in situ? (Mine's a 2.0tdi passat)

                Cheers
                Due to the location of the injectors they can't be viewed to check the part number prior to dismantling.
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                • teknobod
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                  • Nov 2007
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                  #9
                  Can I get enough access to mark them so I can tell if they've changed them?

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                  • Tony Stark
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                    • Nov 2009
                    • 288
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by teknobod
                    Can I get enough access to mark them so I can tell if they've changed them?
                    injectors on a PD engine are mounted in the cylinder head so youd need to remove the rocker cover to get access. The injector wiring loom connector is on the (transmission) end of the cylinder head it has a black round connector.

                    I had to remove some from a head on a 1.9PD last week. Without going too far off topic this is what i found on the oil way of the injector rocker gear shaft.




                    i found another thread online about this so its worth a quick check that they're still in if you ever do any pd headwork.

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                    • teknobod
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                      • Nov 2007
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                      #11
                      Car went into JCT600 VW in Bradford yesterday and was returned with 4 new injectors.

                      Drives a lot smoother and doesn't smoke half as much when you hoof it!!!

                      Car also had a 'Free Health Check' and requires £600 of work to the rear suspension and brakes!

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                      • SteveH
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 4460
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by teknobod
                        Car went into JCT600 VW in Bradford yesterday and was returned with 4 new injectors.

                        Drives a lot smoother and doesn't smoke half as much when you hoof it!!!

                        Car also had a 'Free Health Check' and requires £600 of work to the rear suspension and brakes!
                        Nice one!

                        VW advised me that I required front and rear disks and pads; the rears were only done 6 months ago!!
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                        14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                        • djh
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                          • Jun 2011
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                          #13
                          probably both cases so they can claw back some of the money they lost for replacing injectors etc.

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                          • Biggss2
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                            • Sep 2011
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                            #14
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