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  • Gazmitchell
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Feb 2013
    • 640
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Wtf !? What am I missing ?!

    So new subframe done bushes in up and bolted up. Wishbones on , new lemforder rear tie rods are too long fully wound back ? What the ? ! I measured them against ones I removed to get approx length right and had to wind em fully back and still makes rear wheels toe in any ideas ? I didn't remove driveshafts and hubs either . Just rear struts and subframe overhaul.
  • andy10v
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2009
    • 5996
    • Country: Scotland

    #2
    Have the ball joints slid in on the wishbones?

    I take it they are the correct tie rods?
    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
    Sold ABY-stock

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    • Gazmitchell
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Feb 2013
      • 640
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Andy , no they hadn't moved and bought the rods off the chap on here . Even undid the ball joint to get max movement outwards ... I measured new ones against rusty old ones to get correct height so well strange .?

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      • andy10v
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Mar 2009
        • 5996
        • Country: Scotland

        #4
        Is it the same subframe with new bushes or a refurbished subframe?

        If it is another subframe it could be from a another quattro car with different length tie rods and slightly different tie rod mount location on the subframe.
        Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

        Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
        Sold ABY-stock

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        • ajax1976
          S2Forum Addict
          • Aug 2015
          • 212
          • Country: Scotland

          #5
          Wishbones back on the same sides they came off?

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          • Gazmitchell
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Feb 2013
            • 640
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            It is a diff subframe yes, a 3b with no arb brackets , I removed my ones from old subframe and re welded , but I thought the tie rod mounts were in same place .? I re welded arb brackets over tie rod mounts .. Have I answered my own question !!?

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            • Mikes2
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1704
              • Country: Scotland

              #7
              Different track rods are used on cars with no rear anti roll bar because the brackets are in different places
              Mike

              http://www.s2-audi.co.uk

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              • Gazmitchell
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Feb 2013
                • 640
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Ah . Shyte dam and darn ! and I was going so well !!

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                • SteveH
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 4460
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gazmitchell
                  It is a diff subframe yes, a 3b with no arb brackets , I removed my ones from old subframe and re welded , but I thought the tie rod mounts were in same place .? I re welded arb brackets over tie rod mounts .. Have I answered my own question !!?
                  The 3B subframe has arb brackets, so your replacement isn't from a 3B. Probably from a UR??
                  91 Modded 3B
                  14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                  • Error404
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 19789
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Or early 10v B3 car
                    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                    Indigo ABY coupé
                    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                    • Pauliusb2
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 361
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      you should put your subframe on your old one and see how far out is your brackets on original subframe.

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                      • Error404
                        Super Moderator
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 19789
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Swap the tie rod for the early type
                        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                        Indigo ABY coupé
                        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                        • Pauliusb2
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 361
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          I think he needs early type tie rods or reweld location...

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                          • Gazmitchell
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 640
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Cheers for the help all. Looks like I've a brand new set of lemforder for sale then with a nice fresh coat of POR15

                            Where can I get early ones - are they the longer body smaller arched ones .?

                            The subframe is a B3 as said. Just checked.
                            Last edited by Gazmitchell; 24 March 2016, 20:30.

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                            • Mikes2
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 1704
                              • Country: Scotland

                              #15
                              Sounds like you want LEMFÖRDER - Ref: 10051 01
                              Mike

                              http://www.s2-audi.co.uk

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