Aspartame and Diet Drinks

[newsh]

I've never been keen on diet drinks, they don't taste right for a start, then there's the fact that your body gets a sugar incoming message, and switches over to burn it instead of fat except there is no sugar (instead of getting thinner you get fatter and feel tired into the bargain), then there's the fact that the stuff is 100 times cheaper to put in your drink than sugar, no wonder they want to sell it to us.. and it breaks down into methyl alcohol and formaldehyde in the body.. and people get addicted to it... now this.

Seems like my ant problem may be solved though :-)

John





From the June 2006 Idaho Observer:
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Aspartame - The Worlds Best Ant Poison
contributed by Jan Jensen of WELLthy Choices
We live in the woods and carpenter ants are a huge problem. We have spent thousands of dollars with Orkin and on ant poisons trying to keep them under control but nothing has helped.
So when I read somewhere that aspartame (Nutrasweet) was actually developed as an ant poison and only changed to being considered non-poisonous after it was realized that a lot more money could be made on it as a sweetener than as an ant poison, I decided to give it a try.
I opened two packets of aspartame sweetener, and dumped one in a corner of each of our bathrooms. That was about 2 years ago and I have not seen any carpenter ants for about 9 to 12 months. It works better than the most deadly poisons I have tried. Any time they show up again, I simply dump another package of Nutrasweet in a corner, and they will be gone for a year or so again.
Since posting this information I have had many people tell me of their success solving ant problems with this substance, when nothing else worked.
We found later that small black ants would not eat the aspartame. It was determined that if you mixed it with apple juice, they would quickly take it back to the nest, and all would be dead within 24 hours, usually. I have found that sometimes it will kill them, and sometimes it does not. Not sure why, may be slightly different species of ants or something.
Fire Ants: We got our first fire ant hill about 2 weeks ago. Poison did not work. We tried aspartame and the ants ignored it until we got a light rain. It was just a sprinkle, enough to moisten the Nutrasweet and ground, but not enough to wash it away. They went crazy, hundreds of them grabbing it and taking it back into the mound. When I checked the mound 2 days later, there was no sign of the fire ants. I even dug the mound up some, and still saw none of them.
How does it Work: Aspartame is a neuropoison. It most likely kills the ants by interfering with their nervous system. It could be direct, like stopping their heart, or something more subtle like killing their sense of taste so they cant figure out what is eatable, or smell, so they cant follow their trails, or mis-identify their colonies members, so they start fighting each other. Not sure what causes them to end up dying, just know that for many species of ants it will kill them quickly and effectively.
As with any poison I recommend wearing gloves and washing any skin areas that come in contact with this poison, and avoid getting it in your mouth, despite anything the labeling may indicate.
I suspect it will work for other insects such as yellow jackets as well, but have not tested that yet.
More information on this fantastic poison can be found at: www.dorway.com


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[Billman]

it's not exactly like that!

Actually the Problem with Aspatame are Big portions of it. In test big portions of it was causing Cancer on Rat livers. In Humans the equivalent are many many Tons of cola light.

The thing is Aspartame and other Sweeteners like Xylitol ect are much more Sweeter than sugar so smaller portions are needed for the same sweetness.

About Sugar metabolism: It is fact that when you take sugar, either it stays in your blood as Carbohydrates and is going where it is needed or it will be metabolized into Fat acids. That is Why we use Sweeteners instead of Sugar when we are on a Diet.

If your Drink contains Sugar then you have a much higher chance for teeth caries also.

For it:
-No caries
-No body fat (and the rest that comes with it-heart disease etc)

Against:
-Potentially dagerous in very big doses
-Maybe something that is not known yet

Hope my english is good enough...

cheers

[dan_b]

The biggest problem I have with it is that it tastes utterly disgusting.

[curlyks2]

The biggest problem I have with it is that it tastes utterly disgusting.

Ok then. If tipping a bottle of the stuff down the local ants nest (instead of boiling water) doesn't poison them then maybe they'll commit suicide at the taste!

Agreed: it's foul stuff.

Ck.

[s2_bo]

IMO Stevia is the way forward. Its a natural alternative to sugar. Its also 200 times sweet and has great health benefits.
Including antifungal properties.

Its available form the Amazon Herb company.

[newsh]

it's not exactly like that!
-No body fat (and the rest that comes with it-heart disease etc)


Hope my english is good enough...

cheers

I think you missed my point, if you want to lose weight you need to burn body fat, if you take something sweet into your system your body stops burning fat and trys to burn blood sugar, only there isn't any, so your metabolism shuts down and you feel tired, you certainly don't feel like excersizing which you need to do to burn calories. Its been proven that its far more difficult to lose weight when drinking diet drinks, people think they can drink as much as they like of these no-calorie drinks and sugar free sweets and foods without any impact on their body weight, this is absolutely wrong. You can actually gain weight because your body is in shut down mode awaiting sugar and everything else you eat gets put into storage.

Please be open minded, its not all as the manufacturers would have us believe.

And yes, your english is excellent

[philip walker]

Diet Coke is better `cos when you spill it in the car it is not sticky!!

[shadquattro]

diet coke doesnt make your gums funny either like full fat coke does, looking at at it from a different point of view there are many people who cannot drink the full sugar version drinks so artificial sweetners are the only way to enjoy fizzy drinks , and i have a healthy addiction to pepsi max

[Billman]

I think you missed my point, if you want to lose weight you need to burn body fat, if you take something sweet into your system your body stops burning fat and trys to burn blood sugar, only there isn't any, so your metabolism shuts down and you feel tired, you certainly don't feel like excersizing which you need to do to burn calories. Its been proven that its far more difficult to lose weight when drinking diet drinks, people think they can drink as much as they like of these no-calorie drinks and sugar free sweets and foods without any impact on their body weight, this is absolutely wrong. You can actually gain weight because your body is in shut down mode awaiting sugar and everything else you eat gets put into storage.

Please be open minded, its not all as the manufacturers would have us believe.

And yes, your english is excellent

Sorry, i am trying to as Open minded as possible but it isnt like this. Actually i have never read that the Taste receptors tells the body what to burn. If you eat or drink something with Carbohydrates (sugar etc) then the body even degrades it in Glycose and burns it or metabolizes it in Fat Acids.

On the other hand if you Drink something with sugar and then try to do an activity then on one hand the Body sees a High glycose level in your blood and produces Insulin in order to metabolize the glycose and on the other hand your muscles want the Glycose to work. So you have at one time the insulin taking away from your body the glycose and your muscles needing the glycose in order to work. These two have the following effect that the Glycose is going away from the Blood too fast and your brain (witch is feeded allmost with Glycose) stays out of Fuels.

That all gives you this nice Dizzyness effect.

At least thats is what the Physiology and Biochemistry books say about it.

[newsh]

I realise that many of these sources are "alternative" however there's no smoke without fire. I read a fantastic book about all this and if I can find the name of it I'll post it up. Of course all the body's systems are interelated, science often studies them in isolation.

effects+of+aspartame


Finally, you could probably pass an exam in biochemistry and I couldn't. That doesn't make me wrong though

[Billman]

Finally, you could probably pass an exam in biochemistry and I couldn't. That doesn't make me wrong though

Thats for sure, but in order to pass you must Read!!!

Ok, without jokes now, actually if you have a habit to Drink all day long and big amounts of Drinks then do it without sugar. The same is for chewing gums etc.

Now if you can also avoid other sweeteners then it is even better. After all all the Drinks with sugar or other sweeteners have far more dangerous ingredients like colors, stabilizers and much more.

[Graham]

I cannot drink artificial sweeteners in large quantities i.e. diet coke, i makes me tremble and shake--The missus likes it but thats another story:mischeif: . I have a sort of allergic reaction so as a result i have to drink sugar /full lard only drinks.
besides it tastes like cr4p anyways-- beer luckily is sugar full as i am currently slightly ****** and have no shakes

[S2 PTH]

Just drink water like I do! Water, Squash or Alcohol on occations, really don't bother with carbs