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  • 220bhp
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Nov 2004
    • 2578
    • Home: United Kingdom

    #1

    When to change gear

    At what rev's do you think its best to change gear,I use my ears, and instinct, but my mate says I rag it to much, and drive it like a non turbo car,to the max in each gear, it feels right, but I just wondered what you all thought.
  • topsparky
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Oct 2005
    • 2014
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    drive it like you stole it
    1. SHORT SHIFT KIT
    2. PORSCHE CAYENNE CALIPERS
    3. H & R SPRINGS
    4. BILSTEIN SHOXS
    5. NEW BUSHES AND HP2 STRUTS
    6. UPRATED HIGH OUTPUT COIL PACK
    7. ,3" turbo back s/s/ exhaust
    8. fmic fitted

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    • Azman
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Sep 2005
      • 3205
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      I have got used to chnaging just before the turbo runs out of puff if haveing a bit of a taz session, just like you are doing listening and feeling what the car is doing...
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      • SR71
        S2Forum Addict
        • Apr 2004
        • 330
        • Country: Wales

        #4
        Just past 5900rpm which is peak power in the stock car.

        FWIW.
        00 Audi B5 S4 MRC550
        08 RRS TDV6 HSE
        03 Kawasaki B2 ZX12R 1287cc

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        • Ross
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Aug 2005
          • 3399
          • Country: England

          #5
          Ultimately you want to get best use of the "area under the graph" (referring to a dyno graph), and take it a little higher in low gears to minimise lag on the shift.

          For instance, in the 3B i took it to 7k in 1st (otherwise 2nd was laggy), 6.5k in 2nd and ~6k in 3rd and 4th.

          Experiment a little, often it 'feels' quicker to hold to 7k in every gear but unless you're packing a big turbo it's not the case!
          AUDI - saving Dad's from minivans since 1994

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          • Corey
            Banned
            • Sep 2003
            • 2793
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            WHAT??? you're not supposed to wait until you see the pistons hit the bonnet?
            Corey
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            • Fat Audi 80
              Super Moderator
              • Jan 2004
              • 10547
              • Country: England

              #7
              About 6 - 6300 rpm if racing, but you can feel the car starting to hold back at the upper end so best to change and give it another go!

              Generally though, you can make great progress using 3000 - 4500 revs...

              Cheers,

              Steve.
              The Perfectionist
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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Originally posted by Ross
                Ultimately you want to get best use of the "area under the graph" (referring to a dyno graph), and take it a little higher in low gears to minimise lag on the shift.

                For instance, in the 3B i took it to 7k in 1st (otherwise 2nd was laggy), 6.5k in 2nd and ~6k in 3rd and 4th.

                Experiment a little, often it 'feels' quicker to hold to 7k in every gear but unless you're packing a big turbo it's not the case!
                Remind me what happened to your old car?

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                • Ross
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 3399
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Heh this was pre-upgrade Jamo... afterwards, it was try and shift as close to 7,400rpm as possible without hitting the limiter in every gear

                  It just didn't let up...
                  AUDI - saving Dad's from minivans since 1994

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                  • topsparky
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2014
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jamo
                    Remind me what happened to your old car?
                    1. SHORT SHIFT KIT
                    2. PORSCHE CAYENNE CALIPERS
                    3. H & R SPRINGS
                    4. BILSTEIN SHOXS
                    5. NEW BUSHES AND HP2 STRUTS
                    6. UPRATED HIGH OUTPUT COIL PACK
                    7. ,3" turbo back s/s/ exhaust
                    8. fmic fitted

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                    • Ross
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3399
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Originally posted by topsparky
                      Heh your one to talk (or laugh)

                      AUDI - saving Dad's from minivans since 1994

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                      • topsparky
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 2014
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ross
                        Heh your one to talk (or laugh)

                        i was only laughing
                        people in glass houses don't throw stones
                        they grow tomatoes
                        1. SHORT SHIFT KIT
                        2. PORSCHE CAYENNE CALIPERS
                        3. H & R SPRINGS
                        4. BILSTEIN SHOXS
                        5. NEW BUSHES AND HP2 STRUTS
                        6. UPRATED HIGH OUTPUT COIL PACK
                        7. ,3" turbo back s/s/ exhaust
                        8. fmic fitted

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                        • 220bhp
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 2578
                          • Home: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Some say the rev limiter is there to tell you when to change gear

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                          • AndersS2
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 1364
                            • Home: Norway

                            #14
                            I only use 1.st to get moving, then flooring it in 2.nd, 3, 4 and ease alitte off 5th and 6th. On my setup i have to keep the rpm high to get it to boost on the next gear (1,7bar @ 3800rpm), but i rarly/mostly don't hit the redline.
                            Anders - S2 Avant Clubsport - 8pots or die!

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                            • 1975DCS
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 258
                              • Country: Netherlands

                              #15
                              Simple: If you know the rev fall after changing (let's say 1500 rpm) than look at your dino graph where the best spot of 1500 rpm of power and torque is to be found... You would be surprised how many people change gear way after the power graph has fallen... To bad I still haven't recieved the graph of the previous owner...

                              On my previous Astra turbo I found 5500 rpm the best point, it only falled back 1000 rpm so almost no lag after that. With the Audi I feel I really have to push it much harder to get it moving...

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