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  • Jas11n
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Jan 2004
    • 5067
    • Country: England

    #16
    IMHO and also from reading lots on here, usb on any operating system and aftermarket vag-com lead = BIG no-go.

    If you are going to go aftermarket lead, go for a lead with a serial connection. That's assuming you have a lappy with an old serial port. I bought my laptop specifically for vag-com, so that meant "old and cheap" and it had a serial port.

    My lead came from an american guy based in China. It's a dual K line OBD11 standard cable with a seperate 2x2 connector for pre 1996 cars.
    Unfortunately the seller no longer exists and hasn't for a couple of years.

    This is the type I have >>>> Linky

    Just searched that on flebay, so NCTS etc.

    Vagcom will work just fine as the unregistered shareware, but if your ECU throws more than one code, it'll only explain the meaning of the first one, the rest are just the code numbers, you have to look up their meaning. Output tests work on shareware, but datalogging doesn't.
    Mine is fully registered and I've yet to come across a VAG car that I can't pull codes from (lastest was an 06 MK5 Golf GTi and an 07 v10 S6) apart from the hitachi ecu'ed 7A engine and a select few ACE engined 2.0 16v's.

    I've never heard of a problem with the officail ross-tech vag-com USB leads and getting them to run. Must be something to do with aftermarket cables.

    Jas..
    2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
    2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
    1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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    • Nuvo
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Nov 2003
      • 3825

      #17
      What version of VAG-COM are you using? The VCP drivers are used to run the USB port as if it were a COM port. Have you configured VAG-COM to run as a Com port?
      Have you configured the driver?

      Another question for you, I take it you are running either v1.03 or 1.09.06 of the VCP driver as later version don't support Win 98.
      You choice of driver will also depend on the model of FT chip used on the interface.
      What chip does it have?
      Last edited by Nuvo; 15 August 2007, 22:08.

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Originally posted by Jas11n
        IMHO and also from reading lots on here, usb on any operating system and aftermarket vag-com lead = BIG no-go.

        If you are going to go aftermarket lead, go for a lead with a serial connection. That's assuming you have a lappy with an old serial port. I bought my laptop specifically for vag-com, so that meant "old and cheap" and it had a serial port.

        My lead came from an american guy based in China. It's a dual K line OBD11 standard cable with a seperate 2x2 connector for pre 1996 cars.
        Unfortunately the seller no longer exists and hasn't for a couple of years.

        This is the type I have >>>> Linky

        Just searched that on flebay, so NCTS etc.

        Vagcom will work just fine as the unregistered shareware, but if your ECU throws more than one code, it'll only explain the meaning of the first one, the rest are just the code numbers, you have to look up their meaning. Output tests work on shareware, but datalogging doesn't.
        Mine is fully registered and I've yet to come across a VAG car that I can't pull codes from (lastest was an 06 MK5 Golf GTi and an 07 v10 S6) apart from the hitachi ecu'ed 7A engine and a select few ACE engined 2.0 16v's.

        I've never heard of a problem with the officail ross-tech vag-com USB leads and getting them to run. Must be something to do with aftermarket cables.

        Jas..
        Buy the the one mentioned by s2avant in this thread http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20252 from http://www.ecutool.com/

        Gives you FULL vagcom and connects via usb. Works on my laptop and the incar computer fine

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        • Knight Rider S4
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          • Mar 2005
          • 3541
          • Country: Scotland

          #19
          Originally posted by Jas11n
          IMHO and also from reading lots on here, usb on any operating system and aftermarket vag-com lead = BIG no-go.

          If you are going to go aftermarket lead, go for a lead with a serial connection.

          This is the type I have >>>> Linky

          Just searched that on flebay, so NCTS etc.

          Vagcom will work just fine as the unregistered shareware, but if your ECU throws more than one code, it'll only explain the meaning of the first one, the rest are just the code numbers, you have to look up their meaning. Output tests work on shareware, but datalogging doesn't.
          Mine is fully registered and I've yet to come across a VAG car that I can't pull codes from (lastest was an 06 MK5 Golf GTi and an 07 v10 S6) apart from the hitachi ecu'ed 7A engine and a select few ACE engined 2.0 16v's.

          I've never heard of a problem with the officail ross-tech vag-com USB leads and getting them to run. Must be something to do with aftermarket cables.

          Jas..
          i have just bought serial cable as i was not wasting anymore time.....cheers everyone for advice
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          • Jas11n
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Jan 2004
            • 5067
            • Country: England

            #20
            Originally posted by Jamo
            Buy the the one mentioned by s2avant in this thread http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20252 from http://www.ecutool.com/

            Gives you FULL vagcom and connects via usb. Works on my laptop and the incar computer fine
            A solution for usb suffers by the looks of things :mischeif:
            2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
            2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
            1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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            • Knight Rider S4
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              • Mar 2005
              • 3541
              • Country: Scotland

              #21
              Originally posted by Jamo
              Buy the the one mentioned by s2avant in this thread http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20252 from http://www.ecutool.com/

              Gives you FULL vagcom and connects via usb. Works on my laptop and the incar computer fine

              The 403 lead is not there which one should it be?
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              • Big_kev
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Dec 2006
                • 159
                • Country: Scotland

                #22
                win95

                Just a note guys but i believe that the second edition of windows 95 supported USB as does all versions of windows from then. Windows98, windows98SE, Windows millenium etc.

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                • Nuvo
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3825

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Big_kev
                  Just a note guys but i believe that the second edition of windows 95 supported USB as does all versions of windows from then. Windows98, windows98SE, Windows millenium etc.


                  "Windows 95 OSR 2.1 and OSR 2.5 provide basic USB support that was developed as the technology was first emerging. Based on today's more mature USB technology, there are a number of limitations with USB support in Windows 95 OSR 2.1 and Windows 95 OSR 2.5.

                  These limitations were addressed in Microsoft Windows 98 and carried forward to Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition. Addressing these limitations required several architectural changes that are not portable back to Windows 95 OSR 2.1 or Windows 95 OSR 2.5.

                  Here's the system requirements for VAG-COM as quoted from Ross-Tech's FAQ:
                  With a Serial interface: We recommend at least a 100 MHz Pentium (or AMD equivalent) with 16MB of RAM and Windows 95 or newer. Windows 95, 98, ME, NT4, 2000, XP, and Vista are all fine.

                  With a USB interface: We recommend at least a 500 MHz Pentium-3 (or AMD equivalent) with 64MB of RAM and Windows 98 or newer. USB interface work best with Windows XP or newer on a 1 GHz or faster PC, or on Vista on a machine robust enough to support that that operating system. USB interfaces will not work at all with Windows 95 or NT4.
                  Microsoft recommends that customers who require a more robust USB environment upgrade to Windows 98 or Windows 98 Second Edition."
                  Last edited by Nuvo; 16 August 2007, 08:47.

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                  • mcandmar
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 5118
                    • Country: Ireland

                    #24
                    You are correct Big_Kev, there was technically 3 versions of Windows 95, release A,B and C. With the early release A i dont think there is a way to get it working. For the other you need to install the usbsupp.exe package. You should be able to download it from microsofts site.

                    When starting your machine if the loading screen says "With Internet Explorer" you have release B or C. God i cant belive i can remember all this crap

                    Mark.
                    Last edited by mcandmar; 16 August 2007, 08:33.
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                    • newsh
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                      • Aug 2003
                      • 16226
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Jamo
                      Buy the the one mentioned by s2avant in this thread http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20252 from http://www.ecutool.com/

                      Gives you FULL vagcom and connects via usb. Works on my laptop and the incar computer fine
                      The thread mentions item 403 but this is not on the page, could it be item 0405?


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                      • Nuvo
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                        • Nov 2003
                        • 3825

                        #26
                        Originally posted by newsh
                        The thread mentions item 403 but this is not on the page, could it be item 0405?

                        http://www.ecutool.com/productshow.a...ortsid=&sorts=
                        0402 looks like a viable candidate too and its considerably cheaper as well.

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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          403 has been superceeded with 405.

                          402 will only work with old cars. If you happy that the lead will communicate with just the S2 it is a cheaper option although be warned I can't say it works as it's not the lead myself and S2avant have.

                          The lead does not have can-bus so it will not work with newer cars such as 1.8t's

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                          • newsh
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                            • Aug 2003
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                            #28
                            So then I'd need the 2x2 adaptor as well.

                            There's an item 0404 too, wonder what the difference is?

                            I've got an old Toughbook at home, I might try that out, then I could use the serial port. The screen is pretty small though.

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                            • Jamo
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                              • Mar 2004
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                              #29
                              404 does not support K-Line which is needed to talk to the S2.

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                              • newsh
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                                • Aug 2003
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                                #30
                                Cool, thanks Jamo, its a bit of a minefield, aint it

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