Audi S4 2.7bi turbo ownership good idea?

[4WheelDrifter]

I've always been tempted for an S4 or RS4 as a replacement for my S2 but as Jeffer pointed out during the dinner at the Sept. Ring Meet. "As long as they run, they're great but then if you have to replace something that's located in the engine bay, it's almost always an egine out job which takes 2 days with 2 people to do And that's just to take the engine out and put it back in again, not the repair..."
He did Mihnea's clutch once and said it was a bloody nightmare and he hope he never has to do it again...

I have to admit that his rhetoric did scare me off a bit as my wallet isn't bottomless

That's exactly why I wouldn't have one. Otherwise I'd love one, but not as an S2 replacement of course.

[Rusty]

They're boring, even though they're proper fast. Get a V6 diesel instead, loads of torque, can style they the same and 40mpg not 25.

[WabTheKing]

make sure if you get one the turbo's have been well looked after, just replace both turbos on an rs4 - atleast 20hrs work if you no what your doin which if your paying someone else will be quite expensive

that aside, fantastic car and awsome noise!!! with the right suspension will wipe the floor with most things you come across - dare i say it even an s2

[Acidburn]

They're boring, even though they're proper fast. Get a V6 diesel instead, loads of torque, can style they the same and 40mpg not 25.

Sal took me out in his 1.9 tdi (think he said it was a pd engine) estate last night and boy can he drive, grips well and goes well I made sure my seat belt was on and didn't look like he was hardly trying with it.

[stevieyid]

As has been said the turbos are problematic. I got a quote for the RS4 (ko4) turbos to be fitted to my s4 from mrc. The price was £3200 all in. Once my ko3 turbos blow this will be the route i take. They are great cars and do ike mine. It is more refined but that was the reason behind me buying the S4, power plus the refinement. I have the quattro for pure driving experience at the moment.

[MidnightBlueS2]

Not really

Thanks David, thats a very fair point. This part scares me alittle

Was good to meet you at the Ring btw

Was great meeting you too though I was very short on time and by the time we had finished the two laps with David, you had all headed back for the fort so couldn't say bye. Left a message for all of you on Andy's cell phone though

Hope you can come some other timew or maybe we'll meet again at the Billing Meet.

[Jon441cc]

Knowing james he will want an s4 with worn K03's just so he can take the engine out and change them for K04's himself

[s2driveruk]

[CliveH]

James - you won't be disappointed with a B5 S4!

Totally different drive to the S2 and, as said above, a lot newer 'feel'. More oomph out of the box and all the tunability of the S2.

The scare stories of turbos popping are generally exaggerated - a well looked after car will give you many more years of care-free motoring. Most of the money that has gone into mine after nearly 3 years of ownership has been voluntary mods, with relatively minor real problems. But if you have the modding bug, you'll soon be at home with an S4...

The £3k+ mentioned above for a K04 (RS4) turbos upgrade doesn't just relate to the turbos, but other bits & pieces such as injectors, fuel pump, clutch, and remap.

Whilst replacement of the turbos is an engine-out job, it's not true to say that access to most of the other engine components necessitates this. Incidentally, MRC are very deft at taking these engines in and out - it doesn't need to be made a meal of...

The prices of the cars have come tumbling down recently and can be bought for as little as a late low mileage S2.

Finally, as stated above, RS246.com has a wealth of information

Good luck with your search.

[topsparky]

Sal took me out in his 1.9 tdi (think he said it was a pd engine) estate last night and boy can he drive, grips well and goes well I made sure my seat belt was on and didn't look like he was hardly trying with it.

you should have gone for a spin in his s2 coupe
he took me in it and i nearly swallowed my tongue
that car has sonn ooomph
can't wait for him to get his new project finished

[Acidburn]

Yeah I saw his old s2 coupe and his Urq, that will fly once its finished.

[terrybullwon]

Well i found a S4 BUT.....

Going to get insurance is a no go as they wanted £1500 and thats what a paid on the S2 when i was 19/20.

My fathers insurance company will insure the car for £320 but to be a named driver you have to be 24, and i am 22

[stevieyid]

Try elephant thats who i am with. Im also on my dads insurance and im paying around £700 mark

[T2Andy]

Went for a test ride in a S4 this evening ,felt very taut with plenty of midrange,as standard they do look a little bland and on stilts but does have a beautiful interio
and sound ,going to look at a noggy blue one tuesday.

[Acidburn]

So andy you getting that like james as a second car or you getting rid of your s2?

@ james - thats not good, have you asked them how much it would come down/if it would if you did the stuff like pass plus etc and asked of any other ways of dropping the insurance down, i.e. remove the engine every night.