1997 S6 Timing Belt change

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  • geneandbolly
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2013
    • 1356
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    1997 S6 Timing Belt change

    Hi all,

    Can you tell me how often the timing and aux belts should be changed
    on my trusty S6, please? Every 5 years/ 40,000 miles rings a bell but
    then at my age anything is possible - like Mark's missing radio offer!!



    Also, this car has a little bit more oomph than the standard S6 at 305bhp -
    will the standard belts suffice?

    Muchos thanks,

    Craig
    1997 Audi S6 - The Purple Helmet!
  • Vorsprung durch Technik
    S2Forum Freak
    • Jun 2007
    • 4754
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Get yourself a Gates belt,defo every 5 years but up to 60K miles i think? So every
    3 years for you. Reckon your the highest mile user out there over all of us.

    Ref belt someone will be along with a link.Off to Olivers school now for parents evening.
    96 URS6 plus speck saloon
    96 URS6 plus speck estate
    94 2.6 80 Avant
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    • mcandmar
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Apr 2004
      • 5118
      • Country: Ireland

      #3
      I think its every 80k miles on an Audi, but i stick to 5 years or 60k miles for any car, you could argue for doing it sooner for cars that spend a lot of time sitting idling in traffic.
      91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
      93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
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      • UrS4boy
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Feb 2006
        • 11859
        • Country: Canada

        #4
        UrS AAN timing belt Re & Re info

        Originally posted by geneandbolly
        Hi all, Can you tell me how often the timing and aux belts should be changedon my trusty S6, please? Every 5 years/ 40,000 miles rings a bell but then at my age anything is possible
        First read this:

        http://12v.org/urs/FredMsTimingBeltR&RDIY.pdf

        Then find the tools you need, including the 3256 and 2079:



        As for belts, 305 hp (?) (How do you get 305 hp? not off a stock K24-7000 even chipped), you are fine with the standard belt. My UrS4 is fully RS2'd plus MRC RS2 plus tuning to 360 crank hp (since 2004) and the stock 054109119H belt is just fine.

        Unfortunately, 054109119H might be NLA. In which case, you need to go for a Gates:

        AAN and ABY = 054109119H 151 tooth timing belt. (151 Z in Katespeak)

        OE:



        After Market:

        Gates PowerGrip 5269XS (151 tooth x 19 mm wide) (presumably the same as the OE product, just in a different package):


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        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
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        • Mikes2
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2003
          • 1704
          • Country: Scotland

          #5
          I wouldn't bother with the 2079. It only works if the car is on a lift.

          Official Audi speak at the time was 80k miles. I replace mine every 5 years regardless of miles
          Mike

          http://www.s2-audi.co.uk

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          • UrS4boy
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Feb 2006
            • 11859
            • Country: Canada

            #6
            Originally posted by Mikes2
            I wouldn't bother with the 2079. It only works if the car is on a lift.
            That's odd. I did my timing belt in my 1942 12 x 20 x 7 ft ceiling height single car garage and didn't have lift, yet I used the 2079 (with a 3/4" drive torque wrench). I must have been lucky. No wait. I just followed the DIY the link to which I posted above.

            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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            • Vorsprung durch Technik
              S2Forum Freak
              • Jun 2007
              • 4754
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Anyway chaps i think your all missing the point Craig won't be doing it his mechanic will.
              96 URS6 plus speck saloon
              96 URS6 plus speck estate
              94 2.6 80 Avant
              99 2.8 final edition Cabriolet

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              • mcandmar
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Apr 2004
                • 5118
                • Country: Ireland

                #8
                In that case make sure his mechanic knows that using the crank locking tool it mandatory, and personally i would always replace the bottom belt pulley if you have it off. ....and the water pump.
                91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                • igor136
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 363
                  • Country: Croatia

                  #9
                  You have to change 034105263a. My was cracked. That is most important thing.
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                  • RichLV
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                    • Mar 2015
                    • 872
                    • Country: Latvia

                    #10
                    Originally posted by igor136
                    You have to change 034105263a. My was cracked. That is most important thing.
                    Or get a billet one from terrybullwon and don't replace it ever again. Works a treat and is a great investment.

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                    • geneandbolly
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 1356
                      • Country: Scotland

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Vorsprung durch Technik
                      Anyway chaps i think your all missing the point Craig won't be doing it his mechanic will.
                      Absolutely! And it won't be the local Audi mob as they provisionally want £695 for replacing the timing belt alone!!!

                      The belt and tensioner etc was last replaced in 2013 at 69,000 miles, so judging by your comments then I could leave it another year at least?? Then again, as Mark says, this Helmet doesn't ever sit still for long!!



                      Prof, you're correct as per usual - checking the original invoice, the correct rate is 303bhp, not 305bhp - I forgot how strong those glasses of your's are!

                      Anyway, what's two horses between a couple of old nags . . .



                      1997 Audi S6 - The Purple Helmet!

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                      • mcandmar
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 5118
                        • Country: Ireland

                        #12
                        Originally posted by geneandbolly
                        Absolutely! And it won't be the local Audi mob as they provisionally want £695 for replacing the timing belt alone!!!
                        For £695 i will fly over and do it for you
                        91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                        93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                        94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                        • geneandbolly
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1356
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #13
                          What about servicing, valleting and sticking an aux belt on for that money, too??!

                          I asked the young service guy if he blushed when he mentioned the price!!

                          1997 Audi S6 - The Purple Helmet!

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                          • Error404
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 19789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            They quoted you that as they've never done one and it will be a learning curve for them. I'd find another fitter with experience. Just my 2c
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                            • Vorsprung durch Technik
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 4754
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Are you not using Iolair up there what was his price?
                              96 URS6 plus speck saloon
                              96 URS6 plus speck estate
                              94 2.6 80 Avant
                              99 2.8 final edition Cabriolet

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