Audi Coupe Quattro 7a --> 1z TDi swap questions

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  • De80q
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    • Nov 2016
    • 56
    • Country: United States

    #16
    Are you calculating that with the CQ 01A, or the sedan 01A? The sedan has a slightly taller 5th gear than the CQ.

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    • etsola
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      • Feb 2015
      • 285
      • Country: Canada

      #17
      Well, it'd be the 5th from a DGW 01A from a 1996-1998 A4 TDI Quattro... Which 5th is 0.66... Very tall.

      There's O1E 6 gears that the 6th is 0.56!

      I'll calculate with stock 01A... But thanks I had notice it was taller on the Sedan but didn't think of making the calculations I think it'll Rev too high.

      Do you know if I can swap the rear diff ring and pinion from a B4 into our B3 casing? There 3.89 instead of 4.11.

      Thanks

      ​​​​​​

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      • M2ki
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        • Aug 2015
        • 547
        • Country: Estonia

        #18
        No, you can't.
        1989 Audi 80 Quattro
        1994 Audi 80 Quattro Competition

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        • De80q
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          • Nov 2016
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          • Country: United States

          #19
          It has been tried, and can't be done. If you can find a UrQ rear diff, that will give you the final gearing you are looking for. I know a couple people who have put them into B3's.

          From what I have found, the B3 sedan has a .769 5th gear, and the CQ has a .838 5th gear. I'll be dropping in a sedan 01A into the CQ I'll be picking up soon.

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          • etsola
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            • Feb 2015
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            #20
            I found out that the 5th of the 01A DGW or EEP is 0.659

            That probably be enough to make decent rpm on the highway with 4.11.

            Is changing the 5th gear impossible too?!

            Other question is how to find : 012 311 361 CF

            Thanks

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            • etsola
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              • Feb 2015
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              #21
              Also, does that 01A bolt to a 4cyl or not? I've heard the drilling was meant for both since found in both applications...?

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              • M2ki
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                • Aug 2015
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                #22
                Ofcourse it does. 4 cyl came with 01A gearbox from factory.

                You'll also need the matching input shaft and matching gear for that shaft.
                Last edited by M2ki; 8 May 2019, 15:09.
                1989 Audi 80 Quattro
                1994 Audi 80 Quattro Competition

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                • De80q
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                  • Nov 2016
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                  #23
                  You may find this thread of use.

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                  • Bowie69
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                    • Nov 2013
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                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    I'm gonna say what everyone else is thinking -this is just sacrilege!

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                    • PRY4SNO
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                      • Mar 2009
                      • 767
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                      #25
                      Why not use a more common 5-cylinder TDI, either an AEL or AAT? Just feels more proper in a Cq. Plus they actually have some jam, and will still return excellent mileage. I think Martin was getting 1000 km or better per tank in his sedan.
                      2013 Touareg TDI /// #farmenwagen
                      1992 80q 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
                      1990 Cq /// Project: Because Racecar

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                      • etsola
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                        • Feb 2015
                        • 285
                        • Country: Canada

                        #26
                        Originally posted by M2ki
                        Ofcourse it does. 4 cyl came with 01A gearbox from factory.

                        You'll also need the matching input shaft and matching gear for that shaft.
                        So you mean the input shaft is not the same diameter as the ones in 7a's?

                        Thanks for the input guys... I'll look into that when I'm in front of a computer

                        Cheers

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                        • etsola
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                          • Feb 2015
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                          #27
                          Ok, let's say I'd want to go the "easy" route and put a 1z engine (easily available here) and bolt it to a sedan 01A transmission (longer 5th).

                          What would I need from a longitudinal 1z (never had them mounted longitudinally here in America) ?

                          -Oil pan ?
                          -Engine Mounts ? --> would they fit the 7a quattro subframe ?
                          -I guess I'll need 7a clutch and flywheel to match the output shaft ?


                          Any help on what may be needed would help I'm going to Europe in september and may like to source the parts while I'm there

                          Cheers

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                          • M2ki
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                            • Aug 2015
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                            • Country: Estonia

                            #28
                            You'll need a longitudal 1Z block. Left and front mounts are different on the block.
                            1989 Audi 80 Quattro
                            1994 Audi 80 Quattro Competition

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                            • sam80quattro
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 1496
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                              #29
                              b4 80 1z flywheel and clutch. Pd130 out of a b6 is surely a better shout?

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                              • etsola
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                                • Feb 2015
                                • 285
                                • Country: Canada

                                #30
                                Originally posted by M2ki
                                You'll need a longitudal 1Z block. Left and front mounts are different on the block.
                                Really?!? The block is different?! Never would've thought... That makes it more complex...

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