Alternative head stud washer solution to ARP's.

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  • 4v6
    S2Forum Hobbyist
    • Mar 2013
    • 18
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Alternative head stud washer solution to ARP's.

    In the midst of doing a rebuild here and the problem of replacing the arp headstud washers cropped up.

    The arps are 19mm in diameter but there have been reports of them digging into the alloy due to the loads applied and people needing to go to a bigger washer.

    An alternative solution although likely not the only one is to use a headbolt washer from Toyota. Sacrilige? Nah, practicalties.

    The replacements are 22mm in diameter and a smidge under 3.0mm thick, the arps are 3.0mm dead.
    Inside diameters the same and they fit nicely into the space provided for the stock bolts.

    Part number from any Toyota main dealer is: 90201-11028, cost £1.28 a shot.

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    Hope this is useful to someone.
  • SteveH
    Super Moderator
    • Jul 2003
    • 4460
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Nice find. I've recently removed the head from my car after running ARP's with the washers they supply. No issues with the head found, so not sure whether some people have used incorrect torque values with them
    91 Modded 3B
    14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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    • rxl
      S2Forum Extremist
      • May 2012
      • 1913
      • Country: Germany

      #3
      a good find..

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      • Error404
        Super Moderator
        • Mar 2007
        • 19789
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Good work Tony

        I believe there were two different washer sizes supplied by ARP, the newer ones are larger.
        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
        Indigo ABY coupé
        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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        • zafra
          S2Forum Addict
          • Jun 2013
          • 320
          • Country: Spain

          #5
          Nice help bro
          Step 1: setup. <==
          Step 2: potentiation.
          Step 3: enjoy.

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          • andy10v
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2009
            • 5996
            • Country: Scotland

            #6
            Nice find Tony, thanks for sharing.

            You should drop in here more, you normally have great info to share!
            Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

            Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
            Sold ABY-stock

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            • macspring
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2005
              • 6371
              • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

              #7
              Agreed, thanks for sharing, all these these threads help to create an invaluable body of information to make the preservation / enjoyment of these I5 cars easier.

              Not done a head, so how many washers does one need ?

              Thanks.




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              • rxl
                S2Forum Extremist
                • May 2012
                • 1913
                • Country: Germany

                #8
                You need 12 of them..

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                • x6rs
                  S2Forum Enthusiast
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 134
                  • Country: Sweden

                  #9
                  I think the issue with washer digging into the alloy is not because size of washers, i think its all about lubrication under the washers, the guy who did my head told me that, if you put grease underneath the washers the problem wont occur. Its all about friction he told me, especially when tightening the bolts.

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                  • andy10v
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 5996
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SteveH
                    Nice find. I've recently removed the head from my car after running ARP's with the washers they supply. No issues with the head found, so not sure whether some people have used incorrect torque values with them
                    What torque is everybody using?



                    JP said the digging in is due to lack of lube and the washer turning.
                    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                    Sold ABY-stock

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                    • 4v6
                      S2Forum Hobbyist
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 18
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by andy10v
                      Nice find Tony, thanks for sharing.

                      You should drop in here more, you normally have great info to share!
                      I do swing by regularly Andy I just dont log in very often.
                      I kind of guessed that digging in to the alloy might be caused by lack of lubricant under the washers, makes sense to me, but I have to admit I dont like the smaller diameter of the arps.
                      They dont "look" right if you know what I mean.
                      Anyways, glad its of some interest.

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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        With molyslip, it's 60 ftlbs. There's a thread with the values in somewhere. I remember doing 20 then 40 then 60 ftlbs.

                        Torque values ate different for grease and engine oil lubrication, so use only moly and not copperslip, LM grease or oil.
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • rxl
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • May 2012
                          • 1913
                          • Country: Germany

                          #13
                          Installed some custom ones made by a forum member. Thanks uploadfromtaptalk1430051708904.jpg

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                          • SteveH
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 4460
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rxl
                            Installed some custom ones made by a forum member. Thanks [ATTACH]53282[/ATTACH]
                            Nice!

                            Expensive?
                            91 Modded 3B
                            14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                            • rxl
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • May 2012
                              • 1913
                              • Country: Germany

                              #15
                              For a washer yes. But I think it was worth it

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