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  • macspring
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2005
    • 6371
    • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

    #46
    What's the weight?

    DJ, can you advise the weight of your car so that all of the slipper wagons owners can make mental comparisons, ( and dream - if only ), ?

    Thanks and kind regards.

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    • DJones
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jun 2005
      • 2020
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #47
      Originally posted by David in Dublin
      DJ, can you advise the weight of your car so that all of the slipper wagons owners can make mental comparisons, ( and dream - if only ), ?

      Thanks and kind regards.
      Lol, 3086lbs or 1,399 Kilograms.

      Don't forget the shorter gearing of a ur also helps.

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      • philS2
        S2Forum Addict
        • Nov 2004
        • 356
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #48
        do you change the pitch?i've thought that my front end lifts up quite alot.but it says not to change it for most cars.

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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #49
          How did I miss these numbers... Really good and looks not at all spiky in how it delivers that energy unlike the usual cars running 11's up the drag strip which are pretty nasty to drive around normally.

          Nice work Mr Jones !

          Great to see the benefits of solid engineering principles here - good turbo selection, less weight, use of water injection, a lockable centre and sensible shoes

          What gear ratios are you running there ?

          Very interesting to spot that a raised rev limit would save you a gearchange - there's only a handful of exotics (and modded monsters) that will match you to 60 in ~4 seconds (or less with a gearing tweak or raised rev ceiling).

          Brilliant !

          Please post any results you get on the rollers. That would be real interesting.
          I've forgotten what ECU you are running out of interest.

          PS - G-Tech is damn accurate enough when used properly. NOTHING is 100% accurate from a pure Engineering PoV, but for the money it can't be beat. Mental note to self to buy one... They are especially useful for comparative analysis - before/after a tweak or two.


          Paul
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          • DJones
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jun 2005
            • 2020
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #50
            Originally posted by S2central.net
            How did I miss these numbers... Really good and looks not at all spiky in how it delivers that energy unlike the usual cars running 11's up the drag strip which are pretty nasty to drive around normally.

            Nice work Mr Jones !

            Great to see the benefits of solid engineering principles here - good turbo selection, less weight, use of water injection, a lockable centre and sensible shoes

            What gear ratios are you running there ?

            Very interesting to spot that a raised rev limit would save you a gear change - there's only a handful of exotics (and modded monsters) that will match you to 60 in ~4 seconds (or less with a gearing tweak or raised rev ceiling).

            Brilliant !

            Please post any results you get on the rollers. That would be real interesting.
            I've forgotten what ECU you are running out of interest.

            PS - G-Tech is damn accurate enough when used properly. NOTHING is 100% accurate from a pure Engineering PoV, but for the money it can't be beat. Mental note to self to buy one... They are especially useful for comparative analysis - before/after a tweak or two.


            Paul
            Thanks Paul its running 3.9 diffs. ECU is Motronic mapped by Automark with external 3bar map sensor. Mark is writing me another chip with raised rev limit, only by 200rpm but will make all the difference on a timed run.....

            who would think this would have the potential to run a 0-60 in 3.5ish seconds.. she sits there as if butter wouldn't melt...
            Attached Files

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            • shark_90
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Mar 2007
              • 1475
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #51
              Originally posted by DJones

              who would think this would have the potential to run a 0-60 in 3.5ish seconds.. she sits there as if butter wouldn't melt...
              My kind of modding and my kind of car
              1994 Audi S2 Avant - in pieces
              2006 Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0TFSi - goes fast
              1985 Audi 90 quattro - is wet

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              • S2central.net
                Retired OG Mod
                • Jul 2003
                • 16590
                • Country: Northern Ireland

                #52
                Pretty tidy looking UR I have to say. Love the Alpine White too. That and Tornado Red are the only two colours for me on a UR. The others look wrong somehow.

                You could really surprise an awful lot of exotica with that thing. Must be a hoot !

                Paul
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                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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                • Faheemo
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 544
                  • Country: South Africa

                  #53
                  Total Sleeper !!

                  Darren you have dialed in a 12 inch rollout ?
                  that would give you a 0.9sec headstart ?

                  What RPM are you dropping the clutch ?
                  I suppose on a dry surface you would do alot better.
                  Please post more G tech fies: the G's Chart and hp charts ...
                  thanks

                  S2 Coupe fully built.
                  10.9 1/4mile 0-100 in 3.5secs
                  Precision 6262 turbo
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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #54
                    Originally posted by DJones
                    Greg, here is the fact sheet. The turbo fitted is the MD357. Hope it helps it don't mean a lot to me....
                    Just looked at that spec sheet. Definitely a funky hybrid there. On paper it seems like rather low A/R but that explains the lack of lag that is mentioned, but it still has the headroom to max out the RS2 EM to something in the region of 440-460bhp by my rough calculation based on G-Tech estimate of power at the wheels.

                    I think this turbo is definitely a suitable alternative to the straight GT3071/76R options and if I understand correctly it retains the KKK centre housing for simpler plumbing and attachment to the RS2 EM. Pretty stealthy I'd say...

                    Paul
                    Paul Nugent
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                    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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                    • DJones
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 2020
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Faheemo
                      Total Sleeper !!

                      Darren you have dialed in a 12 inch rollout ?
                      that would give you a 0.9sec headstart ?

                      What RPM are you dropping the clutch ?
                      I suppose on a dry surface you would do alot better.
                      Please post more G tech fies: the G's Chart and hp charts ...
                      thanks
                      As requested.
                      Attached Files

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                      • DJones
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 2020
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #56
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                        Attached Files

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                        • DJones
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 2020
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #57
                          Originally posted by S2central.net
                          Just looked at that spec sheet. Definitely a funky hybrid there. On paper it seems like rather low A/R but that explains the lack of lag that is mentioned, but it still has the headroom to max out the RS2 EM to something in the region of 440-460bhp by my rough calculation based on G-Tech estimate of power at the wheels.

                          I think this turbo is definitely a suitable alternative to the straight GT3071/76R options and if I understand correctly it retains the KKK centre housing for simpler plumbing and attachment to the RS2 EM. Pretty stealthy I'd say...

                          Paul
                          Interesting.. Spoke to Mark the other day and he had had another ur 20v in with a GT3071r fitted and he reckoned it was no way comparable to my turbo. If anyone is interested in the turbo or thinking of buying one give Mark a ring for an endorsement of it.

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                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #58
                            Certainly seems like a belter alright... Do you have a compressor map for it - or would I need to chase the Turbo Dynamics people for that ?

                            Paul
                            Paul Nugent
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                            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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                            • DJones
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 2020
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #59
                              Originally posted by S2central.net
                              Certainly seems like a belter alright... Do you have a compressor map for it - or would I need to chase the Turbo Dynamics people for that ?

                              Paul
                              Give TD a shout, must admit i bought it in haste as their not far from me. Thought i was going to be disappointed after i bought it.

                              Even Mark said "Christ it is a secret weapon never had a turbo as aggresiva and hold boost for as long" it holds 1.8bar at 7000rpm and still has head room. Turned it up to 2.5bar for 1 just 1 blast. Their is no way it would all stay together with that grunt though.

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                              • S2central.net
                                Retired OG Mod
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 16590
                                • Country: Northern Ireland

                                #60
                                I will indeed... I see they have a headline spec for 2.2bar capability on it... That should put it well into the high efficiency area of the map at 1.8bar as you say. I'll do a guesstimate plot on the old spreadsheet dyno for a laugh.

                                Paul
                                Paul Nugent
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                                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                                Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                                There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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