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  • audiman
    S2Forum Freak
    • Jul 2003
    • 4827
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Dean sounds like it is the hall sender, i suspect that when its not running you have no spark. It is fuelling as the crankshaft sender in the gearbox bellhousing is working. Not sure if its possible to fit a new one without removing the camshaft sproket. Most cars this has to be taken off to allow access.

    ABY owners?
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    • Mark Halligan
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jul 2003
      • 2001
      • Country: England

      #17
      Originally posted by audiman
      Dean sounds like it is the hall sender, i suspect that when its not running you have no spark. It is fuelling as the crankshaft sender in the gearbox bellhousing is working. Not sure if its possible to fit a new one without removing the camshaft sproket. Most cars this has to be taken off to allow access.

      ABY owners?
      Yep, the cam sprocket needs to come off to get at it.

      Mark.
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      • audiman
        S2Forum Freak
        • Jul 2003
        • 4827
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Check with Martyn at VAGparts or your local stealer. Part number is 034 905 161. Go get one tomorrow. They may have it in stock. Sure you can get it fitted for this weekend.
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        • jubjub
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Nov 2003
          • 1239
          • Country: England

          #19
          Originally posted by Mark Halligan
          Yep, the cam sprocket needs to come off to get at it.

          Mark.
          How much of a job is this then

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          • audiman
            S2Forum Freak
            • Jul 2003
            • 4827
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Aux rad moved out of the way. Aux. belts off, top cam belt cover off, set engine on TDC. Undo the cam pulley bolt and pull off the pulley. Change hall sender and refit in reverse order.
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            • Doug_RS2
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Jul 2003
              • 3847
              • Home: Scotland Current: England

              #21
              Bring tools to Billing and we'll get it done there. Include a large adjustable spanner so we can lock the camshaft.
              S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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              • audiman
                S2Forum Freak
                • Jul 2003
                • 4827
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Good point, once running it wont die unless you switch it off. If you get the new part bring it along with you. Myself or someone else will fit it for you. Or just watch and laugh at you trying
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                • jubjub
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 1239
                  • Country: England

                  #23
                  Trying being the operative word. I'm all fingers and thumbs me

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                  • jubjub
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 1239
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    Tried to start the car again this morning,guess what,would not start This is still the hall sensor,right? Is it just an intemitent fault or should it start when cold If i can get a sensor i might have to come to Billing on an AA truck

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                    • Doug_RS2
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 3847
                      • Home: Scotland Current: England

                      #25
                      On some of your pictures of the powder coated parts, you had the connector sticking up/mounted wrong - have you tried wiggling it in case it has been damaged? It is the one at the front of the inlet manifold beside the small vacuum hose.

                      When my sensor went, it occasionally wouldn't start when warm, then got gradually worse over 2 weeks and would occasionally not start when cold.
                      S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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                      • jubjub
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 1239
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        Right, heres an update to this saga...

                        Had a new hall sender fitted on Wednesday, fine, the car started....I have a running issue which possibly may be the cam timing out,however that is another problem...

                        At the moment i am back to square one; this morning the car would not start again but when i got home tonight the car started again, and did so numerous times, so i ask what an earth is going on Am i correct in thinking its not the HS now? I suppose i should check and see if i am getting a spark, but then is there any point; If the car decides its going to start it will spark, if its not then it won't

                        Confused,Dean

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                        • S2central.net
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 16590
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #27
                          How do you know the wiring to the hall sensor is OK - maybe a fault on that which made the car appear to have a faulty sender in the first place. Pull fault codes 1st off.

                          Also - if the cam timing is far enough out you may be getting a nonsense signal from the hall sender which the isn't happy with.

                          Could also be something unrelated on the alarm or immo wiring.
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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Dean what was the cuase of this in the end?

                            I'm having strange starting problem that started at GTI and for the past week keep popping up where the engine just cranks but doesn't start.

                            Come next morning it starts

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                            • Graham
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 1622
                              • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

                              #29
                              Blocked fuel filter??, could this cause it to not fire.
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                              • jubjub
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 1239
                                • Country: England

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jamo
                                Dean what was the cuase of this in the end?

                                I'm having strange starting problem that started at GTI and for the past week keep popping up where the engine just cranks but doesn't start.

                                Come next morning it starts
                                Was the fuel pump that was knacked.
                                PITA as the symptons were also that of a faulty hall sender, and that was changed first

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