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  • macspring
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2005
    • 6371
    • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

    #16
    Having done two urS6 front end suspensions now, if I was advising you, I'd replace the top mount, the white plastic ring bearing, and the lower 'wishbone' that connects to the ARB, and has a ball joint in it. Also order the nut and bolt that holds the balljoint in position, from the dealer, as per Dave boy's posts.

    The front suspensions is hard physical work, and you won't want to have to deleve into it again a second time. Between less weight and different design, they make B4 front suspension look like a Golf Mk 1, in my mind.

    If the car is a keeper, also consider the front shocks, and springs. Either a compete new kit or just fresh Sachs or similar shocks.

    Once completed, it will ride the potholes pretty well then, better than a B4.

    Good to see urS6's being saved.




    Last edited by macspring; 24 July 2014, 23:19.

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    • AndyP
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Feb 2004
      • 6049
      • Country: England

      #17
      Originally posted by macspring
      Having done two urS6 front end suspensions now, if I was advising you, I'd replace the top mount, the white plastic ring bearing, and the lower 'wishbone' that connects to the ARB, and has a ball joint in it. Also order the nut and bolt that holds the balljoint in position, from the dealer, as per Dave boy's posts.

      The front suspensions is hard physical work, and you won't want to have to develve into it again a second time. Between less weight and different design, they make B4 front suspension look like a Golf Mk 1, in my mind.

      If the car is a keeper, also consider the front shocks, and springs. Either a compete new kit or just fresh Sachs or similar shocks.

      Once completed, it will ride the potholes pretty well then, better than a B4.

      Good to see urS6's being saved.
      Any tips for splitting the strut from the lower arm?
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      1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
      1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
      1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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      • Duffelcoat
        S2Forum Addict
        • Jun 2010
        • 446
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Originally posted by AndyP
        Any tips for splitting the strut from the lower arm?
        Use the jack supplied with car and 'wind' them apart...
        Audi S6

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        • gunman
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Jan 2009
          • 660
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #19
          Originally posted by macspring
          Having done two urS6 front end suspensions now, if I was advising you, I'd replace the top mount, the white plastic ring bearing, and the lower 'wishbone' that connects to the ARB, and has a ball joint in it. Also order the nut and bolt that holds the balljoint in position, from the dealer, as per Dave boy's posts.

          The front suspensions is hard physical work, and you won't want to have to develve into it again a second time. Between less weight and different design, they make B4 front suspension look like a Golf Mk 1, in my mind.

          If the car is a keeper, also consider the front shocks, and springs. Either a compete new kit or just fresh Sachs or similar shocks.

          Once completed, it will ride the potholes pretty well then, better than a B4.

          Good to see urS6's being saved.




          I'm fairly familiar with the front suspension setup on the C4's I've has a 100 2.5tdi, and A6 Tdi and an A6 tdi quattro.

          I fitted new springs and shocks all round on the A6 FWD along with top mounts etc.

          I'm not 100% yet if it is a keeper. I sold my S2 and as soon as I realised it was going I started thinking I needed another one . There were a few options on the go, one was to keep the money from the S2 until next summer when I could sell my kit car and put the money together to buy a really nice sorted S2 avant. I bought this car originally to keep me going over the winter but it's growing on me more and more.

          It's a completely different beast to the S2 avant, don't shoot me down for saying it but my S2 felt like a performance car where this S6 feels more like a luxury car. It could just be the syling, the cream leather and wood trim and all that.
          1996 Audi S6 Avant.
          1994 80 TDI - Daily Driver

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          • macspring
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2005
            • 6371
            • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

            #20
            Originally posted by gunman
            It's a completely different beast to the S2 avant, don't shoot me down for saying it but my S2 felt like a performance car where this S6 feels more like a luxury car. It could just be the syling, the cream leather and wood trim and all that.
            I tend to agree.

            What I now notice is the quicker steering rack on the S2, I would like a quick rack on the urS6 ?

            You have more C4's than I have B4's.



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            • gunman
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jan 2009
              • 660
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #21
              I just have this one now, sorry, my post wasn't clear, this is my 4th c4, I have had 5 b4s now including my current 80 tdi, 6 if you include my spares car
              1996 Audi S6 Avant.
              1994 80 TDI - Daily Driver

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              • Duffelcoat
                S2Forum Addict
                • Jun 2010
                • 446
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Originally posted by gunman
                I'm fairly familiar with the front suspension setup on the C4's I've has a 100 2.5tdi, and A6 Tdi and an A6 tdi quattro.

                I fitted new springs and shocks all round on the A6 FWD along with top mounts etc.

                I'm not 100% yet if it is a keeper. I sold my S2 and as soon as I realised it was going I started thinking I needed another one . There were a few options on the go, one was to keep the money from the S2 until next summer when I could sell my kit car and put the money together to buy a really nice sorted S2 avant. I bought this car originally to keep me going over the winter but it's growing on me more and more.

                It's a completely different beast to the S2 avant, don't shoot me down for saying it but my S2 felt like a performance car where this S6 feels more like a luxury car. It could just be the syling, the cream leather and wood trim and all that.
                That is what I like about the s6, very comfy and normal, but goes like the clappers when you want it to, not really sporty as such.

                Plus you can do all this whilst transporting, say 14 sacks of logs! Lol

                Makes the s2 seem common in rarity terms too, even a lot of Audi bods don't know what it is!
                Audi S6

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                • gunman
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 660
                  • Country: Northern Ireland

                  #23
                  The top mounts arrived today so when I got home from work I thought I'd give them a go. I was shocked to see the original Audi mounts still in there but 173k miles seem to have taken their toll on them. The steel centre had come away on both and there was about 3mm of play.



                  Great improvement to the car now, feels like a proper luxury car now.
                  1996 Audi S6 Avant.
                  1994 80 TDI - Daily Driver

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                  • macspring
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2005
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                    • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

                    #24
                    The nice thing about finding something so worn / obvious as that is that the replacement is a very marked improvement.






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                    • Mackers
                      S2Forum Hobbyist
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 20
                      • Home: Wales Current: France

                      #25
                      Enjoy it man!

                      I am most definitely enjoying your old S2 out in the Alps at the moment!

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                      • b collins
                        S2Forum Hobbyist
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 19
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        dont forget to get it retracked makes a big difference again.bernie.

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