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  • etsola
    S2Forum Addict
    • Feb 2015
    • 285
    • Country: Canada

    #1

    Fair price for 7a cylinder head w/ cams

    Hi there, just wondering what is a fair price for a 7a cylinder head with cams?
    It has 180k miles and seems in order (no cracks, cam lobes and buckets show no wear and is not warped)...

    Just want my money's worth and not be greedy at the same time...

    Note that I am in North America and I think they are more rare here.

    I figured cams are at least worth 250usd ...

    Cheers
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  • K Simmonds
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Dec 2007
    • 7627
    • Country: Wales

    #2
    250 USD sounds about right for the cams....

    Good 7A heads are now fetching silly money on eBay, especially if machined ready for use in a turbo car.
    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
    1994 MTM RS2.
    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
    2000 B5 TQS.

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    • SteveH
      Super Moderator
      • Jul 2003
      • 4460
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      The last 7A head I sold without cams was £250. That was a few years ago now, so I'd guess it would be £300 or more.
      91 Modded 3B
      14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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      • K Simmonds
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Dec 2007
        • 7627
        • Country: Wales

        #4
        Check out what they change hands for on eBay, crazy money!!!!!!!!!!! I sold a 3B S2 head in 2016 for £350, kicking myself now, though I do have a good 7A head as a spare in stock.

        $250 bucks sounds fair for a good set of 7A cams, I recently got a mint pair of NM's for £200 GBP.

        If the head is really good shape $500 wouldn't be out of the way these days.
        1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
        1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
        1994 MTM RS2.
        1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
        2000 B5 TQS.

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        • etsola
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          • Feb 2015
          • 285
          • Country: Canada

          #5
          500$ with or without cams ?

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          • PRY4SNO
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            • Mar 2009
            • 767
            • Country: Canada

            #6
            Originally posted by etsola
            500$ with or without cams ?
            Try without. Sell them separately. They're not easy to find anymore. If you're selling to the US sell and ship in USD.
            2013 Touareg TDI /// #farmenwagen
            1992 80q 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
            1990 Cq /// Project: Because Racecar

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            • K Simmonds
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Dec 2007
              • 7627
              • Country: Wales

              #7
              Originally posted by PRY4SNO

              Try without. Sell them separately. They're not easy to find anymore. If you're selling to the US sell and ship in USD.
              Assuming the head is in a good state (no snapped studs and valve guide ware well within tolerances) I'd say it has to be worth $500 USD without cams and I'd sell them separately for around the $250 USD mark.

              Hope this helps.
              1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
              1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
              1994 MTM RS2.
              1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
              2000 B5 TQS.

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              • etsola
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                • Feb 2015
                • 285
                • Country: Canada

                #8
                Thanks guys
                Can't find.my Bentley right now ...
                Any source on the cylinder head wear specs?


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                • etsola
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                  • Feb 2015
                  • 285
                  • Country: Canada

                  #9
                  Also, is this machined for Water manifold and Cam sensor or "un machined"?

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                  • K Simmonds
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 7627
                    • Country: Wales

                    #10
                    500 US Buck's machined seems about right these days if anything a little cheap if it's in really good shape... Non machined 7A/NM heads are currently selling for over 700 Euro's via eBay on the continent with machined ready to fit to a 20VT car examples commanding the best part of a grand!!!
                    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                    1994 MTM RS2.
                    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                    2000 B5 TQS.

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                    • K Simmonds
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 7627
                      • Country: Wales

                      #11
                      Originally posted by etsola
                      Thanks guys
                      Can't find.my Bentley right now ...
                      Any source on the cylinder head wear specs?


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                      I'd have to double check but am pretty sure the test procedure goes like this..

                      To do the test one must remove the collets, valve spring retention caps as well as the springs themselves, then by rights one requires a brand new valve to do it by the book, though a used one with no sign of wear (measured with a micrometer) will suffice. Ensuring there is no contamination lubricate the stem with light weight oil (I use gun oil) and insert the valve into the guide as if your fitting it, though stop when the end of the stem is flush with top of it's guide. Then rock the valve back and forth across a 180 degree plain while measuring it's total travel side to side with a dial gauge positioned against the edge of the valve crown, it's a bit of a fiddle and by rights requires VAG tool VW 387 to correctly locate the dial gauge, though you can get around this by using a home made plate to clamp the gauge.

                      Spec's are...

                      Inlet, max play 1.0 mm or 0.039".

                      Exhaust, max play 1.3 mm or 0.051"

                      It's something of a fiddly job and the only reason I know the specs of the top of my head is I had to this recently with a MK2 16V GTI head and the procedure is the same, indeed I believe the valve themselves are identical sodium filled items on the exhaust side.
                      Last edited by K Simmonds; 14 March 2019, 17:51.
                      1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                      1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                      1994 MTM RS2.
                      1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                      2000 B5 TQS.

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                      • etsola
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                        • Feb 2015
                        • 285
                        • Country: Canada

                        #12
                        Thanks man !

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                        • K Simmonds
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 7627
                          • Country: Wales

                          #13
                          No problem mate, glad to be able to help.
                          1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                          1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                          1994 MTM RS2.
                          1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                          2000 B5 TQS.

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