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  • Rocco
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Aug 2007
    • 6393
    • Country: Spain

    #16
    Originally posted by JP
    Dry sump 9000 stock 8000.
    ok ok , it is a madness anyway
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    • caterpillar
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jun 2004
      • 2480

      #17
      Originally posted by JP
      Im running an 8000rpm redline on 95.5 stroke with 1.66 rod ratio. Stuck to 8000 so I could stay with hydraulic lifters and stock oil pump.
      if I dry sump it and solid lifter it, it will sit at 9000rpm with 2bar of boost and no issues as I kept thebpiston diameter to 82mm and fitted ductile liners giving improved bore elasticity.

      Alternativelly could change rod ratio to 1.75 and rev to 10,000 but the extra length of the rods will make the engine feel less responsive.
      the recipe of the engine and how long have you had this 8krpm limit; effect in engine

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      • JP
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Mar 2007
        • 1858
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        No bore deflection or bearing wear after 2000+miles of v hard road use. Compared to cast grey that starts to show 1/2-1thou of wear on thrust side on lower half of bore with less than 1000miles.
        Ductile iron has tensile strength 4x of cast grey block.
        Giving much greater ability to return to original shape.

        All aluminium drag race engines run ductile liners. All pro mod engines do etc.... very effective way of exerting extreme pressures whilst retaining reliability.
        UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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        • Jim_Coupe
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          • May 2011
          • 78
          • Home: Sweden Current: Norway

          #19
          77,4 crank ? Where does that come from ?
          It´s just a question of time..
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          • caterpillar
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jun 2004
            • 2480

            #20
            the old 1900, 2000ccm 5pot...vw 32b or similar

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            • Jim_Coupe
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              • May 2011
              • 78
              • Home: Sweden Current: Norway

              #21
              Originally posted by JP
              Im running an 8000rpm redline on 95.5 stroke with 1.66 rod ratio. Stuck to 8000 so I could stay with hydraulic lifters and stock oil pump.
              if I dry sump it and solid lifter it, it will sit at 9000rpm with 2bar of boost and no issues as I kept thebpiston diameter to 82mm and fitted ductile liners giving improved bore elasticity.

              Alternativelly could change rod ratio to 1.75 and rev to 10,000 but the extra length of the rods will make the engine feel less responsive.

              wow you runn 8000.. but not with small deck right ? U use diesel block ?

              I have 95.5 on 220 deck and 83mm bore.. I took engine apart for inspection after last season.. coulndt see anyting on the cylinderwalls yet and so on..
              Last edited by Jim_Coupe; 25 May 2012, 08:30.
              It´s just a question of time..
              http://www.garaget.org/?car=287344

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              • Rocco
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                • Aug 2007
                • 6393
                • Country: Spain

                #22
                Originally posted by caterpillar
                the old 1900, 2000ccm 5pot...vw 32b or similar
                NM engine crankshaft true?

                do you know a shop what does dry sump sistems for our engines? i am sure in scandinavia there are some
                RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                • JP
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1858
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jim_Coupe
                  wow you runn 8000.. but not with small deck right ? U use diesel block ?

                  I have 95.5 on 220 deck and 83mm bore.. I took engine apart for inspection after last season.. coulndt see anyting on the cylinderwalls yet and so on..
                  Diesel block yes to maintain stock rod ratio. Brave person to run 95.5 stroke on 220 block. Very lifely revy engine due to the fast pistons speeds but a lot of pressure at high rpm.
                  UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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                  • Jim_Coupe
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                    • May 2011
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                    • Home: Sweden Current: Norway

                    #24
                    yep.. im living on the edge hehe...
                    but the engine is just amazing.. I dunno what it is but the Torque is just totaly not from this planet. something happens when you runn 220deck and 95.5 crank.

                    I have the golden Rod angle for torque but not reliability in the long run.. its gonna be intressting to se how it hold togheter.. i use coated Volvo S60R MAHLE pistons.. state of the art **** )


                    But it would have been cool to build an engine like this but Normally aspirated !!
                    2.7L NA that would be nasty.. Im thinking nissan 200 pistons (83mm) and stock rods on a 95.5..

                    hear the sound of 2.7L 7A + E85 + VEMS ohh nasty stuff.



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                    It´s just a question of time..
                    http://www.garaget.org/?car=287344

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                    • JP
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1858
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Its all to do with pistons speed. Closer you get to 1.5 rod ratio the more torque it will produce low down with correct turbo setup the closer you get to 1.75 the better sustained rpm you can have.
                      The idea is choose rpm band for desired turbo and projected hp and build engine with correct piston speed for the application.
                      Similar with cam lift and headflow everything needs to work 100% with each other if correct goals are to be achieved be it na or fi.
                      UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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                      • Jim_Coupe
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                        • May 2011
                        • 78
                        • Home: Sweden Current: Norway

                        #26
                        hehe yep.. im with you... but some of us nut cases just build something and after that we realize.. aahaaa..
                        It´s just a question of time..
                        http://www.garaget.org/?car=287344

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