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  • faaaaast
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Mar 2007
    • 124
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Originally posted by Acidburn
    Thanks for the heads-up, but yeah I've seen that ad. Sadly he's modified it and will want too much I fear. The £700 is just a starting bid, wheras you can pick these up unmodified with good body/interior for not much more than that... Although maybe I should contact the guy and see what he'd want for it...

    This brings up something I'd been meaning to ask you all though. I already have an 80Q. Mechanically it's mainly OK, bodywork is generally OK. Previous owner has left it with some scratches in the laquer coat on the bonnet and roof (quite deep but not through the lacquer), slight corrosion on the rear N/S arch and boot lip (nothing structural), and a not-too-pretty respray (blown in) down the sides and rear. I had the car jigged up by Audi (at great expense) when I bought it and noticed these things to check it wasn't hiding anything structural and the car was straight, and it's all OK on that front.

    So, the other alternative would be to get this resprayed a nice S2 colour if I were going to convert it. How much would a decent respray cost, can the existing corrosion be cured successfully, and will it last long enough to warrant the expense? Since I'd be stripping down the car fully anyway for all this swap, much of the labour normally involved in a colour change respray would be saved...

    James
    '91 S2 Coupe
    '92 A80Q 2.8 V6
    '92 A80 2.8 V6

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    • S2central.net
      Retired OG Mod
      • Jul 2003
      • 16590
      • Country: Northern Ireland

      #17
      James - sounds to me like you are halfway there

      All you need is an S2 or RS2 Avant donor and you are there - Jas11n summed up the list of tasks pretty well. There are some horrible jobs like the fuel pump and filter on the Avant you'l want to do when everything is stripped out.

      Get that 80Q stripped and ready for some paint - InkaGelb - yumyumyum

      Paul
      Paul Nugent
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      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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      • Acidburn
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Jun 2007
        • 13459
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Originally posted by faaaaast
        So, the other alternative would be to get this resprayed a nice S2 colour if I were going to convert it. How much would a decent respray cost, can the existing corrosion be cured successfully, and will it last long enough to warrant the expense? Since I'd be stripping down the car fully anyway for all this swap, much of the labour normally involved in a colour change respray would be saved...

        James
        IIRC there is a member on the site that does spraying and is good with prices etc. I just can't remember his username. Since you will be swapping most bits anyways you should try get a mini-garage meet going to strip yours down to a complete bare shell as i'm sure loads of us could get the job done very quickly. If your car could be used for the conversion then that would knock the price down considerably plus you would not feel like you was loosing it, just giving it a new lease of life.

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        • terrybullwon
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2006
          • 8782
          • Country: England

          #19
          Well, this has all moved forwards by the looks of it James.



          Found this here RS2 sedan's



          Now just need to find you that avant....
          Chef

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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #20
            Originally posted by Acidburn
            IIRC there is a member on the site that does spraying and is good with prices etc. I just can't remember his username. Since you will be swapping most bits anyways you should try get a mini-garage meet going to strip yours down to a complete bare shell as i'm sure loads of us could get the job done very quickly. If your car could be used for the conversion then that would knock the price down considerably plus you would not feel like you was loosing it, just giving it a new lease of life.
            Yeah there is one or two painters on here. I can't remember either - WabTheKing maybe ?

            I would advise against the group shell stripping party as it will be damn near impossible to get everything back where it should be. IME - that job needs to be done methodically with photos, descriptions, lots of lil ziplock bags and in a documented order so that all the things that need to go back on after paint will be easy.

            Paul
            Paul Nugent
            Webmaster http://S2central.net
            Administrator http://S2forum.com

            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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            • faaaaast
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • Mar 2007
              • 124
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              Originally posted by Acidburn
              IIRC there is a member on the site that does spraying and is good with prices etc. I just can't remember his username. Since you will be swapping most bits anyways you should try get a mini-garage meet going to strip yours down to a complete bare shell as i'm sure loads of us could get the job done very quickly. If your car could be used for the conversion then that would knock the price down considerably plus you would not feel like you was loosing it, just giving it a new lease of life.
              Yep, that would be a cool way to do it, if you reckon people would be up 4 it!

              I don't think it would be cheaper to do it with my existing car. I could still sell this one for about £800 - £1000 (the paintwork is not as bad as I'm describing; most punters probably wouldn't notice it; just 'bad' enough that I wouldn't wanna put this kind of investment into a car in other terms without getting it properly sorted - I'm a bit of a perfectionist). I could buy another 80Q with paintwork good, or nearly mint, for around the same amount (it would possibly even have a nice interior, like leather, or Quattro cloth I could keep - mine has blue velour with non-sports seats (I was intending to buy another interior eventually) and wood trim, etc.). If I did it that way, I'd break even on the 80Q part of the equation. A good respray colour change would be, what? £2000? Even if I stripped the car myself? That £2000 is a long way toward buying an S2 Avant with good mechanicals, or doing the work... The only reason to keep my 80Q and do the respray I think would not be on economy grounds, but be to have an unusual colour like RS Blue, that the 80Q never came in, or something?

              I dunno though, depends on how cheap/good this guy on the forum is! Maybe you guys know something I don't I did hear a quote just for good paint from Germany once though of about £900 for a full respray! Hey, this brings up the issue of how you would match the lower body/trim of the S2 avant (it has colour coded door stops on the side, and lower door rubber skirts like the Coupe by the looks, to match in with the lower part of the front bumper?? The 80Q doesn't have these...

              Although a group strip is a great idea, and a very kind thought with living on the Isle of Wight it would potentially add a lot of expense, as I would have to pay ferry fares, etc on the way there, depending on where we did it, and on the way back (because it would have been stripped of mechanicals) a trailer and pay trailer and car ferry fare, etc. If I were able to find a *good* respray on the IOW, I can beg, borrow and steal such things as trailers and won't have to pay silly ferry prices (still the most expensive stretch of water, mile for mile, in the world!!). Also, I'd have to recoup the cost of some of this as much as possible, mainly by selling 'breaker' parts from the two cars that I haven't used...

              Cheers,
              James
              '91 S2 Coupe
              '92 A80Q 2.8 V6
              '92 A80 2.8 V6

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              • faaaaast
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Mar 2007
                • 124
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Unless you mean a few of you coming down to the IOW for a weekend to strip it
                '91 S2 Coupe
                '92 A80Q 2.8 V6
                '92 A80 2.8 V6

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                • faaaaast
                  S2Forum Enthusiast
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 124
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by S2central.net
                  Yeah there is one or two painters on here. I can't remember either - WabTheKing maybe ?

                  I would advise against the group shell stripping party as it will be damn near impossible to get everything back where it should be. IME - that job needs to be done methodically with photos, descriptions, lots of lil ziplock bags and in a documented order so that all the things that need to go back on after paint will be easy.

                  Paul
                  Yes, there's that too! Also it just occurred to me that I'd have to do the respray *after* I get the Avant, it'll need the Avant bumper on/with the car to match it in correctly and add the 'black skirt' at the correct height on the rest of the bodywork?

                  Cheers,
                  James
                  '91 S2 Coupe
                  '92 A80Q 2.8 V6
                  '92 A80 2.8 V6

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                  • faaaaast
                    S2Forum Enthusiast
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 124
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Originally posted by terrybullwon
                    Well, this has all moved forwards by the looks of it James.



                    Found this here RS2 sedan's



                    Now just need to find you that avant....
                    See now damn that is a sweet shape, hiding a powerful beast! Now that is what I'm talking about!

                    James
                    '91 S2 Coupe
                    '92 A80Q 2.8 V6
                    '92 A80 2.8 V6

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                    • quattrostyle
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6229
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #25
                      why an 80 B4 2.8 and not an 80 B4 2.3 ?

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                      • Jas11n
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 5067
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        The UK didn't get an B4 80 2.3 "quattro" just the FWD.
                        2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
                        2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
                        1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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                        • faaaaast
                          S2Forum Enthusiast
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 124
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Jas11n
                          The UK didn't get an B4 80 2.3 "quattro" just the FWD.
                          Exactly, otherwise you're right, this would have been my first choice!

                          James
                          '91 S2 Coupe
                          '92 A80Q 2.8 V6
                          '92 A80 2.8 V6

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                          • Corey
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2793
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            german ebay
                            Import a lhd item item and swap it to RHD?
                            Corey
                            01636 822288

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                            • Flat on my back
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 2449
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              Oh...oh...oh...oh...oh...

                              Originally posted by Corey
                              german ebay
                              Import a lhd item item and swap it to RHD?
                              Stop it Corey and now, jesh! How's your German, mines lousy! Why didn't i think of that!!!

                              Any BTDT's?
                              Carlos.

                              On the look out for less bits for my s2 saloon project. Now supporting myself by shooting for my food. www.airgunforum.co.uk

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                              • Acidburn
                                S2Forum Obsessed
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 13459
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                go onto google and type translate and use the translation function its free and quite good, either text or a complete page and because the pounds better than euro's get quite a good deal at present.

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