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  • speeding-g60
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Aug 2008
    • 1186
    • Country: United States

    #1

    shift detent stiffener

    made a side-to-side shift detent mod.... this should help for quick shifting such as drag racing.

    so i lopped the top off. and drilled it out. and threaded it for 1/2" NPT.

    i am making mine tunable, by using a 1/2" x 3/8" bushing, then a 3/8" plug with two nuts for now to add resistance. sometime this week i will find a longer stronger spring. and after tryin it, i made it stiffer just by loading the stock spring more.

    took all of 10 minutes to figure out. there is a spring, a cap, and a needle bearing inside.

    its a 27mm, BTW.

    and then i tried to make one from a 5spd 01E and it didnt work. they are just a tiny bit different.





    and then i did some playing, and its MUCH stiffer.

    i put a longer bolt in it, then threaded on 3 nuts. the head of the SHCS goes inside the plug. i will find a solid plug later, like an allen one. this one is a square head one and its hollow inside. i even have to pre-load it to get it to start the plug in.

    remember i am just dinkin here with stuff layin around thats easy to play with.

    and this one here, its MUCH firmer like i said.....



    here is the 5-6 gear lockout plate, i wont use those two gears....



    here is a video of it in action.

  • max_s2
    S2Forum Addict
    • Mar 2006
    • 498
    • Country: Latvia

    #2
    Interesting!

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    • Greg_S
      Administrator
      • Jul 2003
      • 12430
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Nice idea, have you given it a try on the road yet?
      Greg

      S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

      '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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      • speeding-g60
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Aug 2008
        • 1186
        • Country: United States

        #4
        car is drag race only, trailered to the track. it cant drive on the roads.....

        it is a copy of this piece;

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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #5
          Never trust a man wearing socks with sandals - LOL - sorry but it had to be said...

          Interesting drag mod alright - not seen that one before.
          Paul Nugent
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          • speeding-g60
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Aug 2008
            • 1186
            • Country: United States

            #6
            hey hey now..... the socks and sandals thing....

            thats to do with my boy. we dont go barefoot in the garage as thats where i fab. tired if digging metal slivers from his feet. and my 4 yr old son caught me at the door and said "no shoeies cant go Dad" and he made me put on the sandals. but i already had socks on, and didnt have shoes right there.... LOL he had brought me the sandals and made me wear them.

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            • gnutz2
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Aug 2006
              • 928
              • Country: England

              #7
              I'm guessing this mod wont work very well if you plan on using 5th and 6th.

              Just for drag racing? 4 gears flat out :mischeif:
              The ONLY S2 Golf!
              http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19402
              10.42@138mph
              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wnkkOfFpXg

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              • Wheeljack
                S2Forum Addict
                • May 2005
                • 219
                • Country: United States

                #8
                Originally posted by gnutz2
                I'm guessing this mod wont work very well if you plan on using 5th and 6th.
                Well, he has done two separate mods...The described mod only helps with the return to center. The plate on the right, however, is what is keeping him from 5/6.

                So THIS mod will work fine even with 5/6 use.

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                • speeding-g60
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 1186
                  • Country: United States

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gnutz2
                  I'm guessing this mod wont work very well if you plan on using 5th and 6th.

                  Just for drag racing? 4 gears flat out :mischeif:
                  see below, but this detent thing will work for a 5 and/or a 6 speed. the plate was just for my own lockout on those gears. i do not use them. its more for when i preload the shifter to the right before shifting into 3rd gear. i have something to slide along, and not accidentally hit 5th gear.

                  i have even run 3rd gear out to 9200 rpm for 10.7 @ 138.....


                  Originally posted by cab9fab
                  Well, he has done two separate mods...The described mod only helps with the return to center. The plate on the right, however, is what is keeping him from 5/6.

                  So THIS mod will work fine even with 5/6 use.
                  yup, you got it. its two mods, and the people i made the vid for asked about the plate as well, thus why i mentioned it.

                  but it really does bring the shifter back to center much more firmly and quick.

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                  • Zoig
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 555
                    • Country: Estonia

                    #10
                    Do I understand correctly, that the spring thingy is on the gearbox?

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                    • speeding-g60
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1186
                      • Country: United States

                      #11
                      updated setup, with location of detent on gearbox.

                      Originally posted by speeding-g60
                      so, here is yet another one....

                      side to side detent firming up. help snap back that shift lever to center. and this is a revision on the first one i did, there is no need for how i did it initially. a plug is just fine for overall, and no spring is replaced. just cut, drill, tap, done.

                      it starts with an aluminum bodied detent from the 01E. doesnt work with the steel bodied one for the 5spd, i tried.



                      you cut the top of it off....



                      pull the spring out.



                      drill the hole out to get the plunger out. notice the plastic caged needle bearing inside. i went and watered it down right after cutting, its hot and i didnt want to melt that thing.



                      tap it for 1/2" NPT.



                      finished product.



                      and you guys saw how it works in the video already, but here it is again. ignore the 5-6 lockout plate.

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh8X4QeeOgo

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                      • Acidburn
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 13459
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by speeding-g60
                        i have even run 3rd gear out to 9200 rpm for 10.7 @ 138.....
                        Keep up the good work

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                        • speeding-g60
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1186
                          • Country: United States

                          #13
                          Originally posted by speeding-g60
                          i have even run 3rd gear out to 9200 rpm for 10.7 @ 138......
                          Originally posted by Acidburn
                          Keep up the good work
                          please lets not forget its a lowly >600 AWHP 4-pot

                          but thank you

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                          • Pirvu Eugen
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1978
                            • Country: Romania

                            #14
                            Interesting gearbox mount you have!!!
                            Can you make a picure with subframe also...where that goes???
                            Please!
                            Thank You!
                            Regards!
                            Eugen

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                            • speeding-g60
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1186
                              • Country: United States

                              #15
                              haha... that is just something that was left on the trans when it was given to me. someone elses trials

                              it looks to be usable with the proper mods to the subframe though. i do not know how they did it.

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