Audi 80 Quattro (Type 89) - AAN Engine Conversion

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  • lcsmith
    S2Forum Addict
    • Jul 2007
    • 477
    • Country: Scotland

    #46
    Originally posted by andy10v
    RS2 intercooler fits directly on an RS2 crossmember, it fits to an ABY if you make/modify a bracket.

    RS2 intercooler will not fit behind a stock bumper without cutting the bottom out of it.

    What are you doing rad wise? (as that will make a difference to your intercooler setup)
    Radiator is as Audi 90, the engine bay will be as 90.

    How much cutting is required? - Does anyone have any pics of this and how it looks to end up with?
    Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 Tdi (140PS)
    Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 16v
    2 x Audi URS4 2.2 20v Turbo
    Audi 100 (C3) Quattro 2.2 10v Turbo
    Audi 100 (C3) 2.2 10v Turbo (Auto)
    Audi 200 (C3) 2.1 10v Turbo - Scrapped
    2 x Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 1.8 8v - Scrapped

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    • tajgreidotu
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      • May 2008
      • 324
      • Country: Spain

      #47
      Im enroled in the same stuff, but im stucked in how to connect all pins to the fusebox....did you follow any guide??

      Continue with this awesome work!!!

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      • lcsmith
        S2Forum Addict
        • Jul 2007
        • 477
        • Country: Scotland

        #48
        Here's the guides I downloaded, all thanks to some great work from Paul Nugent (S2central)

        Schematic_Primer - ABY Wiring for B3.pdf

        ABY_Wiring - B3.pdf

        I hope this helps!
        Last edited by lcsmith; 23 May 2012, 12:18.
        Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 Tdi (140PS)
        Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 16v
        2 x Audi URS4 2.2 20v Turbo
        Audi 100 (C3) Quattro 2.2 10v Turbo
        Audi 100 (C3) 2.2 10v Turbo (Auto)
        Audi 200 (C3) 2.1 10v Turbo - Scrapped
        2 x Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 1.8 8v - Scrapped

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        • tajgreidotu
          S2Forum Addict
          • May 2008
          • 324
          • Country: Spain

          #49
          Originally posted by lcsmith
          Here's the guides I downloaded, all thanks to some great work from Paul Nugent (S2central)

          [ATTACH]36201[/ATTACH]

          [ATTACH]36202[/ATTACH]

          I hope this helps!
          Thank you soooo much!!

          I ve used a million times the ABY engine harness guide, but its the first time I see the other one, exactly what I was looking for!





          Btw, Im going to use a 2.0 radiator, mounted in the front. with it you can use AAN IM and water manifold too + ebay IC and custom bracket.

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          • lcsmith
            S2Forum Addict
            • Jul 2007
            • 477
            • Country: Scotland

            #50
            I've just bought an RS2 intercooler so, thats all the engine parts sourced now

            No doubt I'll need some bits n bobs but put it like this I've never been closer than this before
            Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 Tdi (140PS)
            Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 16v
            2 x Audi URS4 2.2 20v Turbo
            Audi 100 (C3) Quattro 2.2 10v Turbo
            Audi 100 (C3) 2.2 10v Turbo (Auto)
            Audi 200 (C3) 2.1 10v Turbo - Scrapped
            2 x Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 1.8 8v - Scrapped

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            • lcsmith
              S2Forum Addict
              • Jul 2007
              • 477
              • Country: Scotland

              #51
              Just bought an RS2 Inlet Manifold - the "piece de resistance" for me........it just smacks you in the face when you open the bonnet, and for those less familiar with whats what it leaves them with no doubt about the heritage of the engine tuning!
              Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 Tdi (140PS)
              Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 16v
              2 x Audi URS4 2.2 20v Turbo
              Audi 100 (C3) Quattro 2.2 10v Turbo
              Audi 100 (C3) 2.2 10v Turbo (Auto)
              Audi 200 (C3) 2.1 10v Turbo - Scrapped
              2 x Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 1.8 8v - Scrapped

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              • lcsmith
                S2Forum Addict
                • Jul 2007
                • 477
                • Country: Scotland

                #52
                A few Questions.....

                Hi guys,

                That's me gathered up all the parts I need for my AAN/ABY RS2 20vt conversion.

                So on the garage floor I have;

                AAN engine

                ABY Wiring Loom
                ABY Water Rail
                ABY Fuel Rail
                ABY PCV System
                ABY Cam Cover
                ABY Boost Pipe

                Audi 90 Instrument Cluster
                Audi 90 Flywheel
                Audi 90 Radiator, Plumbing, Brackets, etc
                Audi 90 Sachs Performance Clutch kit with reinforced pressure plate and organic clutch

                RS2 Remapped ECU - Hoffer
                RS2 Injectors - Hoffer
                RS2 Hybrid Turbo - Hoffer
                RS2 Exhaust Manifold
                RS2 Inlet Manifold
                RS2 Intercooler

                Porsche 996 Front Calipers (425/426)
                314mm Audi Discs

                OEM Boost gauge and “turbo” vent blank – Ebay.de

                Since the engine is out I’m going to get the components all cleaned up and painted and rebuild everything, while it’s easy to get around it I thought I might as well change the timing belt and do the cylinder head gasket…….so……..

                I'm looking to get;
                044 Fuel Pump – Part No.?
                Metal Head Gasket & Head Bolts
                Thermostat & Seal
                Exhaust Manifold Gasket – Do I need an RS2 exhaust manifold gasket?
                Inlet Manifold Gasket – Do I need an RS2 inlet manifold gasket?
                Turbo to EM Gasket – Which gasket do I order?
                Turbo to Down Pipe Gasket – Which gasket do I order?
                Turbo to EM bolts
                Turbo to Down Pipe bolts
                Wastegate Gaskets – I’m using the AAN wastegate, I read that there is no such thing as a wastegate gasket, can anyone confirm this?
                Cam Cover Gasket Kit – Do I need an ABY cam cover gasket kit?

                Samco Hoses.....?
                Bambridge Brackets
                Porsche brake pads to fit those calipers


                Hoffer reckons that it should be around 350-370bhp, do you have any other recommendations / advice, or do you think that everything else is strong enough to reliably cope with the upgrades?


                Cheers
                Leigh
                Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 Tdi (140PS)
                Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 16v
                2 x Audi URS4 2.2 20v Turbo
                Audi 100 (C3) Quattro 2.2 10v Turbo
                Audi 100 (C3) 2.2 10v Turbo (Auto)
                Audi 200 (C3) 2.1 10v Turbo - Scrapped
                2 x Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 1.8 8v - Scrapped

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                • lcsmith
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 477
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #53
                  Just to let you know guys, I've ordered;

                  Integrated Engineering conrods (rifle drilled),
                  044 fuel pump,
                  Complete cylinder head gasket set,
                  Head bolts, and
                  Water pump.

                  Once I've received the parts, the rebuild will begin!

                  I spoke to Richard (Hoffer) last night and he was saying that he was thinking I'd be better going for a K26/27 hybrid turbo instead of the RS2 hybrid, apparently Lloyd, Sonic, Avantus and Ross have them, and they're good for 430ish bhp.......sounds good to me!
                  Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 Tdi (140PS)
                  Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 16v
                  2 x Audi URS4 2.2 20v Turbo
                  Audi 100 (C3) Quattro 2.2 10v Turbo
                  Audi 100 (C3) 2.2 10v Turbo (Auto)
                  Audi 200 (C3) 2.1 10v Turbo - Scrapped
                  2 x Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 1.8 8v - Scrapped

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                  • lcsmith
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 477
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #54
                    Hi guys,

                    I'm looking at buying a set of hoses - samco's, roose, whatever as long as they're uprated.

                    Thing is I'm not 100% sure which kits will fit......

                    On the boost side, I'm assuming since I'm using ABY / ADU parts i'd be looking at a ABY / ADU boost kit.

                    On the cooling side though I'm using an Audi 90 radiator......is there a kit that I can buy that just fits or will I have to botch together some universal hoses?

                    Any help appreciated

                    Cheers!
                    Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 Tdi (140PS)
                    Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 16v
                    2 x Audi URS4 2.2 20v Turbo
                    Audi 100 (C3) Quattro 2.2 10v Turbo
                    Audi 100 (C3) 2.2 10v Turbo (Auto)
                    Audi 200 (C3) 2.1 10v Turbo - Scrapped
                    2 x Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 1.8 8v - Scrapped

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                    • Greg_S
                      Administrator
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 12430
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #55
                      Have you got some pics of the engine bay and how they are all routed currently?
                      Greg

                      S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

                      '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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                      • lcsmith
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 477
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #56
                        Long time since I posted on here last, getting married and converting a church into our home and getting a mortgage hasn't helped!

                        Anyway, I've been collecting the parts for the conversion (see list below);

                        AAN Engine
                        6 Spd Box

                        ABY Wiring Loom
                        ABY Boost Pipe
                        ABY Rocker Cover
                        7A Rocker Cover
                        ABY PCV System
                        ABY Water Rail
                        ABY Fuel Rail

                        Audi 90 Clocks
                        Audi 90 Flywheel
                        Audi 90 Radiator, Plumbing, Brackets
                        Audi 90 Sachs Performance Clutch

                        K26/27 Hybrid Turbo
                        550cc Injectors - Still to get
                        Remapped ECU - Still to do


                        RS2 Inlet Manifold
                        RS2 Exhaust Manifold
                        RS2 Intercooler

                        Cam Belt
                        Tensioner
                        Water Pump
                        Oil Filter
                        Fuel Filter
                        Spark Plugs

                        Metal Head Gasket set (Victor Reinz)
                        Head Bolts
                        Thermostat & seal

                        044 Fuel Pump - part number 0 580 254 044

                        Red Ignition Coil Packs (Part No. 06E905115E)
                        Apikol - Coil pack wiring loom

                        Audi ABY Front Crossmember

                        BMC Carbon Induction Kit

                        ROOSE Boost Kit - Still to get

                        Custom Catch Can Kit - Still to get



                        After speaking to JP about conrods and engine balancing and the fact that I'm going to be around 400 bhp, I decided although I have the Integrated Engineering Conrods I'm not going to install them, it just seems like a lot more hassle when it's not really needed......

                        My mate has stripped down the engine and cleaned and painted everything up and partly assembled it, I'll let pictures do the talking...










                        And with the standard valve cover.....











                        Next job is prepping the bay while my mate cleans up the gearbox and gets it all together......
                        Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 Tdi (140PS)
                        Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 16v
                        2 x Audi URS4 2.2 20v Turbo
                        Audi 100 (C3) Quattro 2.2 10v Turbo
                        Audi 100 (C3) 2.2 10v Turbo (Auto)
                        Audi 200 (C3) 2.1 10v Turbo - Scrapped
                        2 x Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 1.8 8v - Scrapped

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                        • lcsmith
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 477
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #57
                          I've also got;

                          Set of Porsche 996 Front Calipers

                          S2 Coupe - Hubs
                          S2 coupe - Driveshafts
                          S2 coupe - Diff (6 spd)
                          S2 coupe - 6 spd Propshaft

                          034 motorsport uprated linkage


                          I just need;
                          Bambridge caliper brackets for the 996 calipers
                          Rear brakes
                          3" downpipe & exhaust
                          Wheels
                          & probably a million small bits and pieces I haven't thought of.....
                          Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 Tdi (140PS)
                          Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 16v
                          2 x Audi URS4 2.2 20v Turbo
                          Audi 100 (C3) Quattro 2.2 10v Turbo
                          Audi 100 (C3) 2.2 10v Turbo (Auto)
                          Audi 200 (C3) 2.1 10v Turbo - Scrapped
                          2 x Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 1.8 8v - Scrapped

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                          • Jolfa
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 468
                            • Home: United Kingdom Current: New Zealand

                            #58
                            You get this finished?

                            Stumbled across the thread as it happens to contain pics of my car from the prev owner (the white AAN 80)

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                            • lcsmith
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 477
                              • Country: Scotland

                              #59
                              No not yet

                              I've collected a few more parts though
                              6spd front subframe
                              6spd ABY gearbox spacer
                              6spd gearbox mounts
                              Aluminium solid subframe bushes
                              17x8 RH Turbo Twists
                              80 Kamei front and rear bumper spoilers
                              314mm "Rusty" Andy C rear brake kit
                              K26/27 turbo hose adapter

                              Things still needed;
                              Stainless 3" exhaust
                              Bambridge 996 front caliper brackets
                              Front and rear discs and pads
                              ........and god knows what else!
                              Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 Tdi (140PS)
                              Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 16v
                              2 x Audi URS4 2.2 20v Turbo
                              Audi 100 (C3) Quattro 2.2 10v Turbo
                              Audi 100 (C3) 2.2 10v Turbo (Auto)
                              Audi 200 (C3) 2.1 10v Turbo - Scrapped
                              2 x Audi 80 (Typ 89) Quattro 1.8 8v - Scrapped

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                              • Wizard-of-OD
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 926
                                • Home: Syria Current: Canada

                                #60
                                Project looks stellar mate!
                                Issam N. Abed
                                iABED Industries
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                                The build thread

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