J_ones's Porsche 951 with AAN

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  • J_ones
    S2Forum Buff
    • Feb 2011
    • 44
    • Country: Finland

    #1

    J_ones's Porsche 951 with AAN

    Hi all!

    After some troubles with my previous engine, original 951's, I decided to move up something little bit more reliable. I bought full AAN engine with ECU and clutch plate. It has done over 300 thousand km, but that wasn't a problem 'cause I was going to open it anyway.

    So, now I have this setup:
    - Supertech pistons, 81.5mm
    - Rosten Performance rods
    - Rosten Performance springs
    - Rosten Performance camgear
    - Garrett GT30R
    - Tial wastegate
    - Furans exhaust manifold
    - 044 pump
    - VEMS
    - 993 GT2 Clutch
    - and some other stuff

    Still need to be bought:
    - Injectors
    - 7A camshaft
    - and some other stuff

    Had the head done, nothing big. Also crankshaft balanced, block bored to pistons measurments.





    The block got new black paint on it last weekend. Also I got bearings and gaskets so it's going to be rebuilding time ahead.

    I'm asking now about the Rosten springs: Along those springs came plates that replaces the original plates (don't know what they're called, plates come under springs, in pic above the springs). Should I use the originals or the Rosten ones?

    Then, should I use ARP main studs or will the original studs do the job?

    Feel free to comment. It's been a while since I talk/wrote english propely so sorry if there's something what can't be understood

    It's not so plug and play to put a AAN engine to a Porsche, so http://9products.com/ came to help me. Machining works, mainly the cluthing bell, is done by 9P.
    Porsche 951 '87
  • s4boy
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Dec 2010
    • 103
    • Country: England

    #2
    very very nice keep the updates coming.....mark

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    • Bram
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Aug 2006
      • 2582
      • Country: Netherlands

      #3
      cool project. any pics of the Porker?

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      • J_ones
        S2Forum Buff
        • Feb 2011
        • 44
        • Country: Finland

        #4
        Sure,



        Porsche 951 '87

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        • prj
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2010
          • 6308
          • Country: Estonia

          #5
          Original should be fine on a 30R.
          http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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          • J_ones
            S2Forum Buff
            • Feb 2011
            • 44
            • Country: Finland

            #6
            Hmm, haven't decided yet how long I'm gonna use the 30R. I was hoping that when I get all test and tunes done I'd change the turbo a bit bigger. This is just planning but I don't want to live on the edge That's why I put already a bit better parts in it.
            Porsche 951 '87

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            • prj
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2010
              • 6308
              • Country: Estonia

              #7
              Well, then fit ARP's.

              P.S.
              Make sure you deck the block and skim the head if you are going for a bigger size turbo, or you will lift your head regardless of ARP bolts.
              http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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              • quattro84
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Mar 2006
                • 947
                • Country: Netherlands

                #8
                Nice car, looks like the one which was on sale in Sweden some time ago, had a 700+ hp 5 pot engine http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...4-project.html

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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by quattro84
                  Nice car, looks like the one which was on sale in Sweden some time ago, had a 700+ hp 5 pot engine http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...4-project.html
                  There was a car that featured in pratical performance car, it was awesome

                  I'll dig out the cover

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                  • J_ones
                    S2Forum Buff
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 44
                    • Country: Finland

                    #10
                    Also a question about lifters. I cleaned them and noticed that 5 of them were obviously broken, they just clacked while I turned them up and down. Others had significantly different pressure.

                    So, should I buy originals or lightweight versions?
                    Porsche 951 '87

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      There's a difference of opinions on the lightweight lifters http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34385 Post 26 onwards is an intereting read

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                      • J_ones
                        S2Forum Buff
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 44
                        • Country: Finland

                        #12
                        Nice thread, thanks. I tried to reach Repo today but no luck. Maybe later this week, I also ask about the Rosten springplates I mentioned earlier.

                        My goal is +500hp, not a miracle with 30R? More is better but we'll see that later. The car is going to be almost-daily-driver not so HC-track machine.
                        Porsche 951 '87

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                        • Thuppu
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 4115
                          • Country: Finland

                          #13
                          Nice to see this project here, welcome. What I have heard the lightweight lifters have problems with deformations in hard stress.

                          Audi UrS4 Avant 2.5 20vt - twincharged - Project
                          Audi 80q B4 Sedan 2.2 20vt - Daily user
                          BMW 320d Touring e91 M-Sport - Daily user
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                          • J_ones
                            S2Forum Buff
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 44
                            • Country: Finland

                            #14
                            Yea I thought that this could be interesting project among all the Audis here

                            I decided to buy OEM ones, if this guy http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...4-project.html uses also original, I don't think there is any reason to use lightweight.
                            Porsche 951 '87

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                            • alxdgr8
                              S2Forum Hobbyist
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 22
                              • Country: United States

                              #15
                              Definitely watching this thread! I plan on doing the same thing when I get tired of/break the 951 engine. Good to see 9P will have some stuff ready for me when I decide to make the move!
                              -Alex-
                              '95 Audi 90QS (4.2L ABH V8, 034 IIc, and much more)
                              '87 Porsche 944 Turbo (T04E/60trim/#8, Wolf 3d V4+ EMS, J&S Safeguard, and much more)
                              '11 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X (Crew Cab, 6spd)

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