What is needed to run with VEMS?

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  • a4kquattro
    S2Forum Addict
    • Feb 2005
    • 411
    • Country: United States

    #46
    Originally posted by Bram
    The main problem for me is to drill a bigger hole in the IM, since it's attached already on the the cyl head. I can not find a way to make sure there are no left overs of the drilling metal on the inside of the IM, so it's a bit too risky for now.

    How do you normally drill that bigger hole in the IM and what precautions should I take?

    last time I did this I removed the throttle body, stuffed towels into the manifold behind the hole so nothing could fall backwards into the runners, greased the drill bit, and ran a vacuum at the throttle inlet. no shavings left behind, worked very well.
    Marc Swanson
    Proprietor, EFI Express
    95.5 //S6 Avant
    90' Coupe Quattro V8 4.2L twin turbo
    93' //S4
    83' UrQ
    97' F250 7.3 diesel

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    • Bram
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Aug 2006
      • 2582
      • Country: Netherlands

      #47
      Originally posted by a4kquattro
      last time I did this I removed the throttle body, stuffed towels into the manifold behind the hole so nothing could fall backwards into the runners, greased the drill bit, and ran a vacuum at the throttle inlet. no shavings left behind, worked very well.
      Yes, I see this can work. thanks for the practical tips!

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #48
        Originally posted by a4kquattro
        last time I did this I removed the throttle body, stuffed towels into the manifold behind the hole so nothing could fall backwards into the runners, greased the drill bit, and ran a vacuum at the throttle inlet. no shavings left behind, worked very well.
        What size does the hole have to be enlarged too?

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        • a4kquattro
          S2Forum Addict
          • Feb 2005
          • 411
          • Country: United States

          #49
          Originally posted by Jamo
          What size does the hole have to be enlarged too?
          IIRC, a 1/2" drill bit is what I used.
          Marc Swanson
          Proprietor, EFI Express
          95.5 //S6 Avant
          90' Coupe Quattro V8 4.2L twin turbo
          93' //S4
          83' UrQ
          97' F250 7.3 diesel

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #50
            Originally posted by a4kquattro
            IIRC, a 1/2" drill bit is what I used.
            Cheers for the Info

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            • Jonas_R
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Jan 2004
              • 3781
              • Country: Denmark

              #51
              Originally posted by GazzaG60
              the other change was that the wiring for the vems PNP is for aan and not aby. its an ignition wire that can either be swapped or done in software.
              GazzaG60:

              Can you tell me more about this? Is it an ignition wire for one of the coils or what?
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              • GazzaG60
                S2Forum Freak
                • Mar 2007
                • 4133
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #52
                yes.

                cant rememebr the colour but 2 wires are in a different order for the coils. best done in software the changes.

                you will have a missfire on an aby with an aan base map

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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #53
                  Originally posted by GazzaG60
                  yes.

                  cant rememebr the colour but 2 wires are in a different order for the coils. best done in software the changes.

                  you will have a missfire on an aby with an aan base map
                  Are you sure about this? and what version does it apply to as I never had a problem in 1.127 upwards

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                  • GazzaG60
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 4133
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #54
                    yes. i remember taking the basemap from marcel, the scematic from s2central and 2 ignition wires are different.

                    i chopped them lol and made it work. spoke to teppo and got an "internet slap" and told to do it in SW save cutting wires.

                    there were no aby vems when i did mine i could find. also lots used wire-in rather than PNP.

                    was 3 years ago now almost.

                    you had a correct basmap jamo. i had nothing. firmware on it was 1.0.xx a low one anyway.

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #55
                      I've got basmaps from ABY and AAN and they are the same as I used an AAN config to go to version 1.1.68, I don't think this applies anymore to new ecu's or either that the builders are doing it automatically when building the ecu.

                      Pnanassy be able to confirm.

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                      • GazzaG60
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 4133
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #56
                        like i say it was a long time ago.

                        being a newbie to vems at the time i felt my way around it and doing the wire mod helped me. then when i got a better basemap from teppo it went pete tongue on me and i learned more about the software.

                        i was new to I5 and its wiring then as id only had the car a few months.

                        its a negligable point now. just think jonus is trying to get the full picture.

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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #57
                          True, true

                          I think unless his VEMS ecu will be 2nd hand he'll be fine as the it's just a question to put to his retailer to sort on build.

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                          • Jonas_R
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 3781
                            • Country: Denmark

                            #58
                            When I converted my 3B to multicoil setup I used Paul's excel ark to do the swap. The excel ark list the wiring for the coils to be the same for ABY/AAN/ADU.

                            I'm currently using an AAN ECU and I dont have any misfires. So what am I missing here?

                            Anyhow I bought my VEMS ECU for AAN sometime last year, things are just moving a bit slow getting it installed due to winter and a broken gearbox.
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                            A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

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                            • GazzaG60
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 4133
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #59
                              its hard to remember but there was 1 wire different. its not an issue now anyway.

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                              • QuattroFever
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • May 2006
                                • 1360
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #60
                                can the IAT be installed before the throttle body? As long as its after the intercooler right?
                                Volcano ABY coupe

                                Ant

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