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  • popdemonic
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Dec 2007
    • 1304
    • Country: Thailand

    #16
    Billman,

    i sent you the log file for more insight and understandable.
    what's the timing light anyway.Is it kinda oldschool timing light gun
    and tap a wire on the spark plugs wire on cyl#1 and point the light to the timing belt?
    one of a few I5 from Asia.

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    • popdemonic
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Dec 2007
      • 1304
      • Country: Thailand

      #17
      the log files i sent to you showing many steady throttle.check it out Billman.
      one of a few I5 from Asia.

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      • KRIENG
        S2Forum Fanatic
        • Apr 2009
        • 68
        • Country: Thailand

        #18
        Originally posted by popdemonic
        pictures say a hundred words.
        Help Pop two picture is
        VE122: 3258 Rpm, 227 kpa VE 121
        VE108: 4641 Rpm, 260 kpa VE108 <-------
        VE108 some thing wrong I think soft Samco

        Pop file name is lower right in my Pic it easy to compare
        Attached Files
        Last edited by KRIENG; 31 July 2012, 01:21.

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        • popdemonic
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Dec 2007
          • 1304
          • Country: Thailand

          #19
          yesterday VS today. I think there's some leaks on the hoses between the intake and turbo?



          one of a few I5 from Asia.

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          • prj
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2010
            • 6308
            • Country: Estonia

            #20
            Don't see a single proper timing map in this thread... Sorry.
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            • popdemonic
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Dec 2007
              • 1304
              • Country: Thailand

              #21
              Originally posted by prj
              Don't see a single proper timing map in this thread... Sorry.
              Do you have a proper one Dmitri?
              one of a few I5 from Asia.

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              • A80Avant
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Sep 2005
                • 10873
                • Country: Greece

                #22
                God, been away for a while and same old, same old....

                Pop, the above posted timing maps are absolutely fine as BASE MAPS. They wont damage your engine as they are very safe.

                Dmitri is pointing out IMO that he could do better. Sure he could, as they are nothing more than a base map. Your timing map though was worse.

                It can be very frustrating trying to tune an ECU when you dont have the knowledge, but hang in there, read a couple of books for tuning and you will get there. Dont worry.

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                • popdemonic
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 1304
                  • Country: Thailand

                  #23
                  Originally posted by A80Avant
                  God, been away for a while and same old, same old....

                  Pop, the above posted timing maps are absolutely fine as BASE MAPS. They wont damage your engine as they are very safe.

                  Dmitri is pointing out IMO that he could do better. Sure he could, as they are nothing more than a base map. Your timing map though was worse.

                  It can be very frustrating trying to tune an ECU when you dont have the knowledge, but hang in there, read a couple of books for tuning and you will get there. Dont worry.
                  Hey Vas,
                  I'm so glad to see you around! i know tuning is time consuming.i'm keep reading more and more about the tuning knowledge.i'm not going to be a tuner.I just want to have more insights about tuning.money is the answer,i definitely can pay for the proper tuning just for a peace of mind but what's the point of running VEMS without
                  knowing anything about it?is it enjoyable being able to connect the 55pins and some WBO2,EGT wirings and shout out hey i have VEMS on my car.That's why i'm trying to
                  ask for knowledge and expecting some useful inputs.This's what the communnity purposes.I have so many folks asking me about the procedures of installing the cayenne calipers.i never hesitate to pm them back with definitive answer and always stand by for helps.i didn't expect anything in turn but if any VEMS literacy just read my threads and seeing my questions and going to say i'm jerk without the willing of helps.i'd rather to see my threads blank.I'm living half of the world away from all you guys.I5 cars is rare in my country.you couldn't imagine the price of parts or availability.it's zero.i bet you couldn't see the S-car easily in my country road so i couldn't just take much risks on my car.if engine blow up,my car became garbage.this's what always in my mind and it's time to speak out.
                  one of a few I5 from Asia.

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                  • prj
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 6308
                    • Country: Estonia

                    #24
                    You have like 3-4 don't you.
                    Buy me some tickets
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                    • da_trem
                      S2Forum Buff
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 45
                      • Country: Canada

                      #25
                      Pop,

                      what's your injector deadtime?..i had all sorts of problem with the basemap marc sent me just because deadtime wasnt matched to my injectors. That was actually the first thing i did before tuning anything else.
                      1996 Audi S6, VEMS, S362.

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                      • KRIENG
                        S2Forum Fanatic
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 68
                        • Country: Thailand

                        #26
                        Originally posted by da_trem
                        Pop,

                        what's your injector deadtime?..i had all sorts of problem with the basemap marc sent me just because deadtime wasnt matched to my injectors. That was actually the first thing i did before tuning anything else.
                        I see marc set both of us by tradition 0,192,4080,544 us

                        pls help what is deadtime for

                        Pop use
                        http://www.034motorsport.com/034efi-...e-p-17600.html

                        and I use
                        http://www.034motorsport.com/engine-...set-p-369.html

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                        • cooperquattro
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 815
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Originally posted by prj
                          You have like 3-4 don't you.
                          Buy me some tickets
                          Didn't think you tuned vems!!!!
                          I asked a while back and you only did motronic:-/

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                          • Billman
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 4129

                            #28
                            That does not lead somewhere now. Please add to the thread.

                            I would like to see a map that is much different than the ones posted! The motronic ones I have seen does not look that much different.
                            Go Holset or Go RS4

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                            • prj
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6308
                              • Country: Estonia

                              #29
                              Originally posted by da_trem
                              Pop,

                              what's your injector deadtime?..i had all sorts of problem with the basemap marc sent me just because deadtime wasnt matched to my injectors. That was actually the first thing i did before tuning anything else.
                              Dead time has pretty much nothing to do with high load situations where IPW is more than 4-5 milliseconds.
                              http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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                              • GazzaG60
                                S2Forum Freak
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 4133
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                so what happens if you pull timing, egt changes? knock signal reduction.

                                are you sure your seeing knock and not another vibratino being passed on. for example the sensor torque and positioning are important as is other mechanical problems. subarus for example light up the knocklink like xmas tree oftem due to the 3rd gear.

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