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  • Thuppu
    S2Forum Freak
    • Sep 2010
    • 4115
    • Country: Finland

    #16
    Yea, but many have problems with Vems and stock triggers. The problem usually appears on very high rpm's. The VW Lupo trigger is defenitely a good upgrade.

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    • QuattroFever
      S2Forum Extremist
      • May 2006
      • 1360
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Originally posted by Biturbo
      just not too much then you will damage sensors
      BTDT
      Volcano ABY coupe

      Ant

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      • QuattroFever
        S2Forum Extremist
        • May 2006
        • 1360
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Lupo trigger mod is 60-2 wheel behind flywheel?
        Volcano ABY coupe

        Ant

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        • murat
          S2Forum Enthusiast
          • Oct 2005
          • 167
          • Country: Turkey

          #19
          Here is a log file from 29 october

          I dont want to hassle with 60-2, I want to continue with original. Maybe find a way to improve the signal quality

          Thanks for help
          Attached Files
          Cheers

          Murat

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          • roger shaw
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Sep 2008
            • 129
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Hi

            running vems on an ABY engine,modified

            when I was trying to get it to run I also had a lot of trigger errors,7A flywheel

            this may help or not,fitted a good earth strap from the cam cover to the chassis

            trigger errors went away but if I log the triggers it is still missing the triggers

            the pin on the flywheel is 4mm(7A flywheel)

            the pin on the ABY duel mass flywheel is 6mm(cast into the flywheel)

            does not sound alot but is a massive difference in the flesh

            this was not a perminant solution as I am going to make a piece of tube to fit the pin and weld it on

            but the engine not runs ok with no missfires

            hope this helps

            Roger

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            • kamuto
              S2Forum Fanatic
              • Oct 2009
              • 83
              • Country: Lithuania

              #21
              there isn't any trigger error in your log

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              • roger shaw
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Sep 2008
                • 129
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                when looking at the log file

                on tickover all is ok

                when increasing the revs there is gaps in the log and missfires

                this was before the extra earth strap was fitted

                also when trying to get rid of the trigger erors I used 3 x different sets of vr sensors and they were all the same

                I did try running with the sensor touching the flywheel,could hear it rubbing,that made no difference

                Roger

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                • murat
                  S2Forum Enthusiast
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 167
                  • Country: Turkey

                  #23
                  Originally posted by kamuto
                  there isn't any trigger error in your log
                  But why do have this rev counter hesitation then?
                  I always thought it was trigger error
                  Cheers

                  Murat

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                  • Takumi
                    S2Forum Enthusiast
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 120
                    • Home: Lithuania Current: United States

                    #24
                    got this 'issue' in the same rev range as yours...maybe it's just related with tacho/VEMS output signal noise etc...
                    BLOG: http://quattro10vt.wordpress.com/

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                    • V6quattro
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 949
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #25
                      Originally posted by murat
                      Here is a log file from 29 october

                      I dont want to hassle with 60-2, I want to continue with original. Maybe find a way to improve the signal quality

                      Thanks for help
                      Hassle with a 60-2? 60-2 works perfect for my. Just fit one and never look back!
                      1360kg/600Whp Avant 0-200km/h 9sec

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                      • Billman
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 4129

                        #26
                        I can't open this log....it crashes everytime I try to open it (maybe bad CRC while downloading or something) but can it be that your VEMStune has a low baudrate setting and it logs too slow up there?
                        Go Holset or Go RS4

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                        • murat
                          S2Forum Enthusiast
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 167
                          • Country: Turkey

                          #27
                          I log with 19200 i think

                          My vemstune is always uptodate using manual update. If you are not updating manually, that can be the problem.
                          Cheers

                          Murat

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                          • Billman
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 4129

                            #28
                            no, mine is also up to date and I had trigger issues before because of the 7A flywheel pin. I try again to download your log on another PC.

                            Edit: I had to update manually!
                            Last edited by Billman; 27 November 2012, 10:47.
                            Go Holset or Go RS4

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                            • Billman
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 4129

                              #29
                              There is a communication error man...the log jumps i.e. 7:08 to 7:10 in a blink of an eye.....
                              Go Holset or Go RS4

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                              • Erikk
                                S2Forum Enthusiast
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 103
                                • Country: Sweden

                                #30
                                Probably noise from ignition system. Bad ignitioncoil grounding? Try changing plugs to the ones with buildt in resistors.
                                How are the condition of the rubberseal/whatever thats between the coil and plug ?
                                Audi S2 Avant - 600whp

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