Braking issue on 2.3 20v CQ

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  • Sluttysmurf
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • May 2014
    • 152
    • Country: England

    #1

    Braking issue on 2.3 20v CQ

    After driving my car for a short while the more I brake the brakes seems to not release fully and over a short time the brakes hold on on all 4 corners.
    so you end up riding the clutch to get the car to move anywhere and when u come off the
    accelerator the car the car comes to a stop.

    so pretty much makes the car un driveable.

    it was fine for ages.
    now my dad and I are scratching our heads on what it could be.
    as it doesn’t have a servo.
    is or the ABS pump?
    is it the brake booster?

    what the hell is it! I just want to get in the car and drive it, but I physically can’t,

    has anyone had a similar thing happen to them? Or know what the problem could be?

    any help would be amazing people.
    as it’s so frustrating.
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  • Bowie69
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Nov 2013
    • 2675
    • Country: England

    #2
    Check your rear calipers, the handbrake mechanism seizes up with monotonous regularity.

    Also check cables while there.

    If tweaking the handle brake lever on the caliper fixes it, then you know what to do....

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    • Jaswan
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Apr 2011
      • 757
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

      #3
      Master cylinder?

      Jase.

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      • Sluttysmurf
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • May 2014
        • 152
        • Country: England

        #4
        Originally posted by Bowie69
        Check your rear calipers, the handbrake mechanism seizes up with monotonous regularity.

        Also check cables while there.

        If tweaking the handle brake lever on the caliper fixes it, then you know what to do....
        I had all the handbrake cables checked and changed as I thought that was the problems at first… I was wrong!

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        • Sluttysmurf
          S2Forum Enthusiast
          • May 2014
          • 152
          • Country: England

          #5
          Originally posted by Jaswan
          Master cylinder?

          Jase.
          Well I have tried looking for a new one but struggling.

          I don’t want to buy second hand incase that’s no good.


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          • John.
            S2Forum Fiend
            • May 2012
            • 2607
            • Country: Scotland

            #6
            I had similar on my CQ, replaced the MC with a spare(not new) I had. This sorted it.

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            • Sluttysmurf
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • May 2014
              • 152
              • Country: England

              #7
              Originally posted by John.
              I had similar on my CQ, replaced the MC with a spare(not new) I had. This sorted it.
              Well I shall go down this route next I think and hope it works lol
              thank you.

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              • newsh
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Aug 2003
                • 16225
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                I does have a brake servo but it’s a hydraulic one. It’s in between the pedal pushrod and the master cylinder. It sounds to me like the servo is applying the brakes all the time without you pressing the pedal. You could try taking the power steering pump belt off and driving it to prove the point but beware.. the steering will be very heavy and the brakes will need a good push to stop the car!

                Also
                Have a look under the dash and make sure the brake lever is returning fully and not riding on the pushrod.

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                • Sluttysmurf
                  S2Forum Enthusiast
                  • May 2014
                  • 152
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Well let’s try this
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                  • steve briance
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 1455
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Lets hope it is that and not the servo itself as newsh suggested.

                    Taking the power steering belt off is a very simple (and free!) check to do and may just save you blindly swapping another component. The master cylinder isnt going to apply pressure without being pressed by something, whether that is your foot or an internally failed servo leaking pressure from the pump to the rod that pushes the m/cyl...

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                    • Sluttysmurf
                      S2Forum Enthusiast
                      • May 2014
                      • 152
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Does anyone know how to take this bloody thing apart? To change all the seals?

                      m we have taken the C clip off but it won’t come apart
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                      • Bowie69
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 2675
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        There's a snap ring, visible in the first pic, two sharp flat screwdrivers should get it apart.

                        Do you have a new circlip/snap ring in the seal kit?

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                        • Sluttysmurf
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                          • May 2014
                          • 152
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bowie69
                          There's a snap ring, visible in the first pic, two sharp flat screwdrivers should get it apart.

                          Do you have a new circlip/snap ring in the seal kit?
                          Where? Or am I being blind?

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                          • Bowie69
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 2675
                            • Country: England

                            #14
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                            • Bowie69
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 2675
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              Left hand outline shows the ring clearly visible just inside the aluminium casting.

                              Right hand circle highlighting the gap in the snap ring where you get your screwdrivers in.

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