Brake bleeding - help required before I burn the car

**rsmaku** · 14 March 2009, 19:14

Have you tried to push like 3 times and then bleed. its a 2 men job. close the bleeding nut, pump 3 times, press pedal down and hold, then screw the nut open, when pressure is off, close it again. and repeat if necessary.

second one i like is 2 men job also. first one is screwing nut open, when its open other one is pushing slowly pedal until its down, then first one ise closing the nut. pump like 3 times and repeat operation until you get results. works for me

**s2driveruk** · 14 March 2009, 20:26

presume you are using the ezibleed with a spare tyre to provide the pressure? Does seem odd as using it on mine resulted in a lovely hard pedal and nice, high engagement?!?!?!? I guess only other thing could be a knackered servo, there is a test on here somewhere but seems unlikely. Definately got a good seal on the reservoir and not introducing air by letting the bottle run low with fluid to force through the circuit right?

**LHD_Kid** · 14 March 2009, 20:56

Hi,
I agree, it's really a 2 man job.... normal method would be pump the pedal 3 or 4 times, then on the last push down, as the pedal is coming down the bleed nipple is opened, then closed as the pedal reaches the floor. Raise the pedal, pump again and repeat a few times.... should be fine....
I suspect there has to be "something" wrong with your technique, as if it happened last time and somebody else did exactly what you did and it worked.....
It shouldn't be difficult, but don't give up....!!!!
Chris

**shark_90** · 14 March 2009, 21:30

Well I wondered about my technique.. which is why I got the easibleed from Halfrauds. Can't go wrong with that surely??!

I've definitely got good seals and the fluid never gets low.

**shark_90** · 14 March 2009, 22:32

Originally posted by shark_90

The calipers are from a forum member and I don't know how long they've been off a car, but even if they were seized I should get a firm pedal so I'm not pointing at the calipers.

I've had confirmation that the calipers haven't been off a car for long at all and are AOK as I thought

**s2driveruk** · 15 March 2009, 06:13

true, not a lot you can do wrong with the ezibleed really

**macspring** · 15 March 2009, 07:40

Is it to do with,

the fact that the car is on axle stands and the wheels are hanging down, similar to a Mk 1 Golf where the brake compensator for the brakes on the back axle will mean one will never be able to bleed the brakes if the back axle is hanging down.

Above maybe a long shot, but at the stage you're at at suggestions maybe of assistance. Good luck resolving it. BTDT on a Mk 1.

Post what the cure is, assuming it is not a box of matches.

Kind regards.

**shark_90** · 15 March 2009, 09:57

All 4 corners are on axle stands at the moment, but I must admit that I wondered if it would make a difference.

I almost want to drain all the fluid out under pressure with the eezibleed and start again. I'm sure I haven't introduced air into the system at the res cap or let the fluid run low.. what would the score be on effectively emptying the system and refilling from scratch? Would I need to prime anything? ABS? Servo?

**s2driveruk** · 15 March 2009, 10:23

i bled mine on stands and the clutch too and other worked so not sure the answer lays there but more than happy to be proved wrong. I think draining the entire circuit will probaly increase the headache rather than resolve in my opinion. i'm presuming it was all ok before started in terms of pedal travel etc? Have you checked all flexis to ensure they dont bulge etc under pressure. does the fluid run clear of bubbles and how much are you pulling through on each corner?

**shark_90** · 15 March 2009, 10:47

Yes I wondered if draining the entire circuit would cause more headaches.. I'm inclined to think that it will. Yes it was all OK before, so it must be something I'm doing wrong.

Fluid runs clear with no bubbles (I've put literally litres through the system!!), done a good 500ml through each one, twice.

**jameswkr** · 15 March 2009, 10:59

I was warned when replacing my front hoses not to let the ABS control unit run empty of fluid...hope this isnt the problem and not sure how to overcome it if this has happened...

**macspring** · 15 March 2009, 11:15

Shark90,

I know this might seem expensive, but I have one and after using the Gunson's Eazibleed, this is really fantastic. It may be worth the investment or buying with a group of mates who live near by?

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But of course the bleeding may not be the cause of the problem, not sure what is mind you.

Another clutching at straws - would it help to bleed the brakes with the engine running, ( any port in a storm at this stage ).

Kind regards.

**shark_90** · 15 March 2009, 14:46

OK, been working on the car most of the morning.

Pop quiz: for those of you who have standard brakes, which way does your bleed nipple point? Up or down?

**LHD_Kid** · 15 March 2009, 16:26

Originally posted by shark_90

OK, been working on the car most of the morning.

Pop quiz: for those of you who have standard brakes, which way does your bleed nipple point? Up or down?

Sure it's up, as in the piccy.... Clicky here Then technical info, brakes including part numbers, general description... there is a diagram from the Family Album... (can't seem to link directly to it though...)

This means air is generally at the top of the caliper and is release out the nipple....

Does this mean you have the L / R calipers on the wrong sides.....?

Chris

Brake bleeding - help required before I burn the car

Brake bleeding - help required before I burn the car

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