Raymond,
You are one of few really honest guys around. Yes, it is hard to feel the difference in the pedal. The monobloc's are better in theory than conventional Brembos. They are also - incidentally - cheaper to produce. Go figure why Brembo hypes them so much.
The honest truth is that most of us haven't a clue about real braking. Most beginners - me included - go out and figure more is better. If a 4 piston caliper on a 323x30 rotor is good, then a 10 piston caliper on a 380x34 mm carbon rotor is better!!
It don't work that way. I remember Jackie Stewart saying how it took him years to learn how to go "off the brakes". I was what made him faster. Most of us brake like Frankenstein. We don't know zip about braking but we buy brakes that are too big.
Do some real seat time on a track, talk to racers. After a point, it is the tires - tyres? - that are the limiting factor. Big calipers and huge rotors on an S2 only add to the unsprung weight and make for lousy handling. Don't add more weight than necessary to do the braking you need.
There are jerks out there who think they will out brake you because they have huge calipers and huge rotors. No way. See you at the track dudes.
For one time stopping, the sh*tty S2 original brakes will do fine. It is on the track, after repeated maximum braking, when your rotors are red hot and your fluid is near boiling temp and your fresh air induction system is putting as much cold air to the rotors as possible and you still can't brake, that you need bigger brakes.
Racers talk about 3 kinds of fade.
1 - Greeen fade because you didn't seat your new brake pads correctly and they are degassing
2 - Fluid fade when your brake fluid is boiling. Your pedal goes soft because the fluid is boiling and air doesn't compress. This is why you need to keep fresh brake fluid in your car. It is hydroscopic, attacts water and water boils at 100C while you fluid may be at 105.
3 - Real fade when your pedal is hard but the sucker still won't brake because your pads are so hot, the coefficient of friction has dropped. This is why there are street pads and racing pads.
Sorry for the rant. Of course anyone can feel free to spend megabucks on brakes. But in the real world, on a track that really tests your brakes, the guy with the huge calipers and biggest rotors won't outbrake you.
In the real world, all you need are RS2 calipers. After that, get stickier tires and kick ***!
You are one of few really honest guys around. Yes, it is hard to feel the difference in the pedal. The monobloc's are better in theory than conventional Brembos. They are also - incidentally - cheaper to produce. Go figure why Brembo hypes them so much.
The honest truth is that most of us haven't a clue about real braking. Most beginners - me included - go out and figure more is better. If a 4 piston caliper on a 323x30 rotor is good, then a 10 piston caliper on a 380x34 mm carbon rotor is better!!
It don't work that way. I remember Jackie Stewart saying how it took him years to learn how to go "off the brakes". I was what made him faster. Most of us brake like Frankenstein. We don't know zip about braking but we buy brakes that are too big.
Do some real seat time on a track, talk to racers. After a point, it is the tires - tyres? - that are the limiting factor. Big calipers and huge rotors on an S2 only add to the unsprung weight and make for lousy handling. Don't add more weight than necessary to do the braking you need.
There are jerks out there who think they will out brake you because they have huge calipers and huge rotors. No way. See you at the track dudes.
For one time stopping, the sh*tty S2 original brakes will do fine. It is on the track, after repeated maximum braking, when your rotors are red hot and your fluid is near boiling temp and your fresh air induction system is putting as much cold air to the rotors as possible and you still can't brake, that you need bigger brakes.
Racers talk about 3 kinds of fade.
1 - Greeen fade because you didn't seat your new brake pads correctly and they are degassing
2 - Fluid fade when your brake fluid is boiling. Your pedal goes soft because the fluid is boiling and air doesn't compress. This is why you need to keep fresh brake fluid in your car. It is hydroscopic, attacts water and water boils at 100C while you fluid may be at 105.
3 - Real fade when your pedal is hard but the sucker still won't brake because your pads are so hot, the coefficient of friction has dropped. This is why there are street pads and racing pads.
Sorry for the rant. Of course anyone can feel free to spend megabucks on brakes. But in the real world, on a track that really tests your brakes, the guy with the huge calipers and biggest rotors won't outbrake you.
In the real world, all you need are RS2 calipers. After that, get stickier tires and kick ***!
It's only when the brakes are really needed that people find they have a problem>
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