anyone here with a S2 Coupé and 312mm rs4 b5 rotors on the rear?

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  • NEO
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    • Oct 2003
    • 326
    • Country: Sweden

    #76
    Awesome solution. But I can't understand how the bracket are fastened to the assembly...?

    What would a pair cost?

    Originally posted by Ruhmic
    Here some pictures from the mounted adapters.
    The first pictures are from the S2 coupe and the other pictures from the S2 Sedan and Avant axle.
    The next days I will bring it on the car and then I shot some more Pictures when the axles completely mounted.
    /NEO - I have a sexual thing for big brakes.
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    • quattrofrank
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      • Jul 2010
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      #77
      Originally posted by NEO
      Avant or coupé...?
      coupe offcourse

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      • Ruhmic
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        • Feb 2010
        • 44
        • Country: Germany

        #78
        Pictures

        Here are a few photos like the whole thing is screwed to the wheel bearing housing and how the wheel bearing housing is being processed.
        Attached Files

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        • quattro
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Dec 2004
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          #79
          And the cost of this solution?
          Probably the longet S2 project in history EVER!

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          • Wolfgang
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            • Mar 2006
            • 250
            • Country: Germany

            #80
            @quattro-frank

            how much material must be grinded of on your solution? 3-4mm?

            @all

            the R8 rear brake setup from ruhmic is amazing... can´t wait to see more pictures of that on the cars!!!!!

            i also attached some pictures of my done brake project on the rear. you may have a look..

            kind regards!

            Wolfgang
            Attached Files
            S2 Coupe ABY
            S2 Sedan
            S6 20V Avant
            www.audis2.de

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            • quattrofrank
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              • Jul 2010
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              #81
              4-5mm I guess. I wanted to change hubs to avoid grinding, but because me rims are already touching the wheel arces I needed to avoid this. Its still alot of material left on the carrier so I`m not to concern

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              • Wolfgang
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                • Mar 2006
                • 250
                • Country: Germany

                #82
                yes... as you said.. the calipercarrier is 14mm thick. the wheel bearing house is at this place only 10mm thick... means 3-4-5 mm shouldn´t be a problem.

                although i really don´t like changing something like this...
                S2 Coupe ABY
                S2 Sedan
                S6 20V Avant
                www.audis2.de

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                • John B
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                  • Apr 2008
                  • 926
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #83
                  Rear Brakes

                  Hi Ruhmic,

                  This is quie a comprehensive solution you have. Just a few points: -

                  1) As others have pointed out, how much have you had to to grind back the face of where the caliper carrier used to bolt on?

                  2) You have used one of the splash shield holes to bolt your solution on. That is the way i was going. The hole was origianlly an M6 thread but you look to have bored to M10. Does this weaken the hub too much?

                  3) I guess the soultion has to be a perfect fit before you bolt it all together as it needs the hub to be pressed into the bearing, the hub to be torqued to the strut and the hub to be torqued to the axle......all of which are a major pain in the a** to undo.

                  4) Does the ABS sensor still fit with the handbrake caliper?

                  5) What handbrake cable solution do you have in mind?

                  No criticism here... I admire the pioneering!

                  Some folks have commented that bigger rears upset the balance of braking but in my view lots of attention is lavished on up-sizing the fronts and retaining the standard rears, which changes the balance from standard.....there is some form of balance to be had here....more from me on braking theory when i have time to write it up.

                  Good effort!
                  2001 996 C4 - Being renovated
                  1994 ABY Coupe - "Das Smaragd RS2+ Coupe" - Sold

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                  • Ruhmic
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                    • Feb 2010
                    • 44
                    • Country: Germany

                    #84
                    Rear Brakes

                    Hello John B,
                    here are a few answers to your questions.
                    1) The height is not changed and remains original. The outer diameter of the wheel bearing housing is changed, but only as much as necessary to allow the fit of the adapter.
                    2) Yes, there is a hole from the splash shield, that is changed to M10. The wheel bearing housing is still strong enough at this point.
                    3) The adapter is pressed prior to installing the wheel bearing housing and screwed. Then the wheel bearing and the hub is pressed in. Then mounted it to the axle.
                    4) The ABS sensor fits here without problems. For smaller discs but it is problematic with the ABS sensor.
                    5) The hand brake cable is a special solution that is specially made.

                    The balance of the brake is adapted specifically. The front axle brake system is installed RS4 B7. There is also a special master brake cylinder and uses a modified brake booster. The pressure regulator is also changed to the rear axle.
                    Last edited by Ruhmic; 4 April 2011, 19:46.

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                    • Wolfgang
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                      • Mar 2006
                      • 250
                      • Country: Germany

                      #85
                      finished:













                      all components listed FOR COUPÈ S2:

                      orig. S2 Coupe brake-hose
                      orig. S2 Coupe handbrake-cable
                      RS4 B5 Rear Brake discs
                      RS4 B5 Rear Caliper bracket
                      RS4 B5/S4 B5/A4 B5 Quattro REAR standard wheel hubs
                      RS4 B5 rear brake-pads. (S2 rear brake pads would also work BUT not 100%)
                      Girling 41/43 rear brake calipers from URS4, URS6, Urquattro 20V, Audi V8 D11, some A8 etc.
                      orig. S2 Coupe Rear wheel bearing
                      orig. S2 Coupe Rear wheel bearing houses

                      NONE of these parts is in any way modified or changed. ALL original Audi parts plug´n´play.

                      Remember guys, don´t try this at home.

                      best regards!

                      PS: All on this site: www.AudiS2.de

                      Last edited by Wolfgang; 27 June 2011, 21:04.
                      S2 Coupe ABY
                      S2 Sedan
                      S6 20V Avant
                      www.audis2.de

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                      • NEO
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                        • Oct 2003
                        • 326
                        • Country: Sweden

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Wolfgang
                        Remember guys, don´t try this at home.

                        http://www.audis2.de/index.php?view=...ntent&Itemid=5
                        Are you crazy? Of course we will!

                        DO you have any of the vital measurements of those calipers? Like cc of the "ears" that you fasten them to the brackets with? Any other measurements would be appreciated. I guess you know what I'm thinking... Will they fit on the RS4 b7 brackets, oh yeah. That's what I'm thinking.
                        /NEO - I have a sexual thing for big brakes.
                        www.irry.com | Irry got a face lift!
                        #nordicaudi @ irc.nordicaudi.com

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                        • Ruhmic
                          S2Forum Buff
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 44
                          • Country: Germany

                          #87
                          Some Update from the R8 solution

                          Here are some pictures from the R8 solution on the Coupé.
                          It´s all completely mounted with the handbrake cable
                          Attached Files

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                          • AndyP
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                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6049
                            • Country: England

                            #88
                            Anybody got a source for B5 quattro rear hubs? Fronts I can find for about £35 new, but not rears
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                            1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                            1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
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                            • Error404
                              Super Moderator
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 19789
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #89
                              I got some RS4 ones off one of the guys on SRS, got quite a few offers from a wanted ad
                              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                              Indigo ABY coupé
                              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                              • AndyP
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                                • Feb 2004
                                • 6049
                                • Country: England

                                #90
                                Good point, that worked with the RS4 caliper carriers, so I'll give it a try
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                                1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                                1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                                1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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