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  • Greg_S
    Administrator
    • Jul 2003
    • 12430
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #46
    Originally posted by Lee
    3 years on I am glad I chose the donor car I did and there is plenty more funky stuff like this to come. My S2 is never going to be for sale to anyone.

    I need a big shed, maybe I should have done that before the brakes!!
    I can relate to that one, ive spent to much time and money to sell mine
    Greg

    S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

    '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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    • Mark Halligan
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jul 2003
      • 2001
      • Country: England

      #47
      Originally posted by Greg_S
      I can relate to that one, ive spent to much time and money to sell mine

      Yep, I can relate to that one.
      Mark - Modded

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      • dan_b
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Sep 2003
        • 3670
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

        #48
        Hey Lee, impressed (of course) with your front brake setup having seen it in the flesh at the London meet yesterday. Was a bit concerned at the clearance you've got between the caliper and the inside edge of your alloys though - can't be more than about 2mm there? Is that ok - are there any expansion issues with all that heat being generated?
        Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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        • dan_b
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Sep 2003
          • 3670
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #49
          @ Lee - did you get those EBC Reds on the back yet?
          Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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          • Lee
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jul 2003
            • 1512
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #50
            Nowhere to work on the car, suffered the flu and currently working daylight hours. Am going to try this weekend if I get a spare hour! Thanks for the short loan of the pads...I will see if they make a difference (my rear disks are undersized and overheating on the track as is).
            1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

            Designun Limited....
            Aerospace, Space and Motorsport Design Consultancy and hardware supply.

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            • Lee
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1512
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #51
              Oh, forgot to answer about the clearance issues. There isn't much clearance but the parts that run close will never touch under use. Its the disk that expands the most and I have seen 1.5mm radially change in the disk to bell mountings so the floating bit is doing its job.
              1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

              Designun Limited....
              Aerospace, Space and Motorsport Design Consultancy and hardware supply.

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              • dan_b
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Sep 2003
                • 3670
                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                #52
                What if you got something stuck in there like a bit of gravel or something- just concerned it might do something nasty to either the caliper, or the wheel?

                I still can't get my head around floating discs! Are you using the calipers from your old "small" setup?

                Let us know how you get on the EBC Reds on the back, happy to help.
                Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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                • 4WheelDrifter
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 5773
                  • Country: Devon

                  #53
                  Lee - Maybe you haven't got the time. But have you thought about measuring your stopping distances, and comparing them to the ones in the Highway Code? Might be worth a laugh.
                  SS

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                  • Lee
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 1512
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #54
                    Originally posted by dan_b
                    What if you got something stuck in there like a bit of gravel or something- just concerned it might do something nasty to either the caliper, or the wheel?
                    Had that already. Wondered what that regular clunk was when leaving the car park once. Never had it since.

                    Originally posted by dan_b
                    I still can't get my head around floating discs! Are you using the calipers from your old "small" setup?
                    Same calipers, just disks are 2mm larger and 4mm thicker than before.

                    Originally posted by dan_b
                    Let us know how you get on the EBC Reds on the back, happy to help.
                    Thanks. I think I have ruined one of my wheels due to the excess swarf!
                    1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

                    Designun Limited....
                    Aerospace, Space and Motorsport Design Consultancy and hardware supply.

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                    • dan_b
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3670
                      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                      #55
                      Originally posted by 4WheelDrifter
                      Lee - Maybe you haven't got the time. But have you thought about measuring your stopping distances, and comparing them to the ones in the Highway Code? Might be worth a laugh.

                      I personally would be very amused (and interested) to do this with all of the cars here on the forum, with both stock brakes and the myriad different brake upgrades that we've done. The stopping distances in the Highway Code are stupid. The urban myth is that they're based on the original Ford Anglia? You can't tell me that braking hasn't improved since then?!
                      Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #56
                        Clarkson showed that a 911 stopped in under 1/2 the distance at 70mph and that was a couple of years ago! I'm sure that some of the new carbon stuff would be awesome when up to operating temperature!
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • Lee
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 1512
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #57
                          I did some rough calculations and got in excess of 1.5g on that grippy surface coming in to roundabouts and junctions. Took delta velocity and the approximate number of car lengths covered. I was a bit conservative.

                          It would be great to do a comparison just out of interest. We could either use time or distance covered. I guess a stopwatch with a repeatable timekeeper could do just the trick. Must be the same piece of tarmac though. The test would have to be done from a high speed to see how the brakes are performing well with high heat loads and to reduce timing errors as much as possible.
                          1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

                          Designun Limited....
                          Aerospace, Space and Motorsport Design Consultancy and hardware supply.

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                          • 4WheelDrifter
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 5773
                            • Country: Devon

                            #58
                            Has anyone got a straight 2 mile long private drive?
                            SS

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                            • dan_b
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 3670
                              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Lee
                              I did some rough calculations and got in excess of 1.5g on that grippy surface coming in to roundabouts and junctions. Took delta velocity and the approximate number of car lengths covered. I was a bit conservative.
                              1.5g?


                              I like that grippy stuff on junctions they're putting down everywhere now - ultra high friction tarmac, definitely a good thing to be doing to improve safety at junctions (unless you see it as an opportunity to brake even later!). Costs over 10x as much as normal tarmac though.

                              We must be able to sort out a brake test session at a meet somewhere?
                              Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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                              • S2central.net
                                Retired OG Mod
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 16590
                                • Country: Northern Ireland

                                #60
                                1.5g !

                                This smilie must be what happens to your eyeballs under braking



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