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  • Audi_CQ
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Mar 2004
    • 940
    • Country: Norway

    #1

    Large S2 master cylinder

    Does anyone know of a large master cylinder(larger then std 25.4mm) that would fit a S2?. A bit to much pedal travel with Cayenne calippers so need 27mm or larger.
  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #2
    I thought Ben ( S2avant ) looked into this when he first fitted 8pots to his car and found that all the new Audi's with multi piston calipers still only used a 25.4mm master cylinder?
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    • quattrostyle
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Oct 2006
      • 6229
      • Country: Netherlands

      #3
      AFAIK the LHD RS2 one is slightly larger.

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      • Audi_CQ
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Mar 2004
        • 940
        • Country: Norway

        #4
        Originally posted by quattrostyle
        AFAIK the LHD RS2 one is slightly larger.

        It's the same 25,4mm I'm afraid. Same part nr.

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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          There's two part numbers for the LHD RS2

          The common RHD S2 and LHD RS2 master cylinder is part number 441 611 021 B

          On the LHD there was another master cylinder 4A0 611 021 C for the 95 cars.

          The 2nd one is bigger according to Jade who had them both

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          • saltinot
            S2Forum Extremist
            • May 2004
            • 1946

            #6
            The larger MC came on the later LHD RS2s. The hydraulic servo is also larger on the later cars.

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            • Audi_CQ
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Mar 2004
              • 940
              • Country: Norway

              #7
              Originally posted by saltinot
              The larger MC came on the later LHD RS2s. The hydraulic servo is also larger on the later cars.
              Different part nr. , but same size cylinder:
              In Norwegian, but states 25,40 for both part numbers.
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              • Audi_CQ
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Mar 2004
                • 940
                • Country: Norway

                #8
                Will try to adapt something like this:


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                • macspring
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 6371
                  • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

                  #9
                  Hopefully still on topic,

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                  So does that mean that if one bought the Audi S2 BK650 kit, (365mm disc), the brake pedal would be much closer to the carpet ?

                  Btw, does anyone have the part numbers for the disc and the caliper in this kit and what Audi car it comes on as oem kit ?

                  Is it not possible to change a rod or piston in the brake cylinder to make it longer to change the length of travel required for the brake pedal ?

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                  • macspring
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 6371
                    • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

                    #10
                    Originally posted by saltinot
                    The hydraulic servo is also larger on the later cars.
                    Which bit are you referring to here ?

                    Thanks.

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                    • terrybullwon
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 8782
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      food for thought

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                      • saltinot
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • May 2004
                        • 1946

                        #12
                        Originally posted by macspring
                        Which bit are you referring to here ?

                        Thanks.
                        The hydraulic brake booster.

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                        • rs200
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • May 2009
                          • 1398
                          • Home: Croatia

                          #13
                          what will happen if you use bigger brake line? that could help you. I thing so.

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                          • Error404
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 19789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            it is the amount of fluid displaced by the master cylinder, lines won't make a difference. If you calculate the area of each piston then you see how much further the master cylinder has to travel to move the caliper pistons the same distance with big multi-pot calipers.
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                            • rs200
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • May 2009
                              • 1398
                              • Home: Croatia

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Error404
                              it is the amount of fluid displaced by the master cylinder, lines won't make a difference. If you calculate the area of each piston then you see how much further the master cylinder has to travel to move the caliper pistons the same distance with big multi-pot calipers.
                              of course . you are right.
                              now I take a look in ETKA and there is the same cylinder for
                              S2 (3b,aby) 25.40mm even the 7A have the same
                              s4 ,s6 - 25.40x13/22.5
                              ,RS2 - 25.40x13/22.5
                              200 20v - 25.40x13/22.5
                              audi V8 - 25.40x13/22.5

                              they all are the same, and have same code. only 7a have different.

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